As much as we can't seem to get away from referring to TCL, how about MVTCL or mvTCL!
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:16:06 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [U2] Pick Pocket Guide > > My bad on the mid-cap drop; sorry. > > For TCL/ECL, maybe mvCommand or mvControl? > > I didn't say it will be easy or even worthwhile for the experts; but, I > think it must help in some way to be known as the gurus in this market > (better billable rates, makes you more desirable as a consultant, etc.). If > there are five authors (for five platforms) and they each write 20% of the > book and that book has the potential of selling 5 times more (for five > platforms instead of one), essentially, you are producing a book for 1/5 of > the cost. I know we can really work these numbers so in the end it will > cost nothing to write [like the days we work in a year]. I know it's still > a tough sell, but, maybe even include some ad-supported areas within the > book (as long as it doesn't compromise objectivity concerning the > platforms). I think the major platform vendors should also contribute to > get this done as it directly benefits them the most. > > Recently, I have moved away from the MultiValue market [not by choice]. I > must say that I'd have a difficult time in getting any 'buy-in' though on > what I still consider an incredibly powerful database due to almost a > complete lack of visibility. How do you promote a technology that hasn't > had a book based on it in quite a long time? If the platform vendors, tool > and integration companies, etc. still believe that they have a good story to > tell, it's time to ante up and place your bets already. > > Regards, > > Jim > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clifton Oliver > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:19 AM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] Pick Pocket Guide > > Well, the terminology issue is something we (Spectrum magazine in > particular) can promote since we are already committed to promoting the term > MultiValue (note the mid-cap casing) and the MultiValue Logo. We just add > such terms to our Style and Usage Guide and use them in the magazine. > > Side note: Is there any interest in us having our Style and Usage Guide > available online? > > > > I'm interested in hearing what folks would find an acceptable term for > TCL/ECL/etc. > > As to the idea of of a generic book, groups of experts, etc., that sounds > like a fame and glory no profit Open Source kind of thing. A lot of the > experts you might want to attract are dudes and dudettes trying to make a > living. That goes back to some of Tony's comments. How could that be made > worthwhile for said experts to forgo revenue producing time to produce a > non-profit book? > > Considering some other Open Source documentation efforts, I'm not saying it > can't be done. I'm just challenging everyone to present detailed ideas for > how it could be made to work. > > > Regards, > > Clif > > > > On Mar 23, 2010, at 6:09 PM, James Canale, Jr. wrote: > > > I think it would be great do something like this. > > > > Multivalue Query [mvQuery] > > Multivalue Basic [mvBasic] > > Multivalue PROC [mvPROC] > > > > I also think it would be great if someone could write a piece of a book > that > > is very generic (keep it at a 20,000 foot view) which covers each major > > topic area. Once complete, a group of experts-at-large in the various > > flavors add platform specific details. When complete, one or more of the > > know-it-alls [like some of the gurus on this list] combine the common > parts, > > while leaving the unique areas in place. Basically, a wiki to book > > transformation. Many of the books sold today have two, three, and even > more > > authors (especially the technically oriented books). Something like this > > could reduce the work required (just doing a piece of the whole) and > > increase the potential market (supports most platforms) for sales. I see > a > > lot of talent on this list that can pull something like this off, it just > > needs a great leader (and I see many of them here too). > > > > Regards, > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Clifton Oliver > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:39 PM > > To: U2 Users List > > Subject: Re: [U2] Pick Pocket Guide > > > > In Spectrum magazine, we use the term MultiValue Basic to talk about the > > programming language in articles that are not platform specific. I put it > in > > the style and usage guide for just the reasons being brought up here. I > > don't see any reason not to add other MultiValue generic terms. MultiValue > > Query comes to mind. I'm open to suggestions about that and other terms. > > Post them here, or if you'd rather not, just send them to me at > > [email protected] (or my regular e-mail address). > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Clif > > > > -- > > Clifton Oliver, Managing Editor > > International Spectrum Magazine > > Spectrum Tel: +1 720 259 1356 > > Clif's Direct Tel: +1 619 460 5678 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > U2-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. 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