George:

I don't mean to imply that the U2 CUI is unusable. It is very efficient, but useless in this graphics environment world we live in today. I can't sell our application with it so I have to build a GUI front end, which makes it an irrelevant benefit. I hope this makes sense.

My point was simply that the costs of the PICK environment is much more than other environments and this has to be fixed.

Thanks,

Bill

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George Gallen said the following on 2/1/2011 12:17 PM:
The front end being data basic, which in my opinion is far superior
to PL/SQL or T-SQL - even without the multi-value ability.

By front end, if you install MySQL, you can't do much with it unless
you use some programming language as the front end to display, whether
it be GUI, or character based.

I wouldn't call the CUI unusable, maybe not pretty, maybe inflexible
but definitely not unusable.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:09 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

George:

I'm not sure what you mean by "front-end".  No software can be sold
today with a telnet-based "character" interface.  So, if you mean a CUI
front-end then I'd have to point out that you don't really get a
"front-end" with U2 either, because CUIs are unusable and, therefore,
of
no value to us developers (at least not any more).

In fact, the U2 environment is becoming significantly more expensive
than the other environments noted by others who have also been working
outside the U2 space.  It's about time the PICK vendors figure this out
and correct the problem or they soon won't have any clients left.

Bill

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George Gallen said the following on 2/1/2011 11:25 AM:
but...UV is a lot more than just a db. You still need a front end
with the others. Yes the
front end can be free as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Romanow
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:10 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

On 2/1/2011 2:04 PM, Symeon Breen wrote:
I find the whole licencing issue a real pain.



Compare to sql server - express edition for free comes with 100
pooled
connections as default - ok there is a max DB size


Or the db's like pgsql, mysql, etc with no restriction.
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