Symeon:

To your comment, I can only agree.  :-)

Bill

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Symeon Breen said the following on 2/2/2011 12:00 AM:
I am not being rude,  but the whole concept of being data storage agnostic
and building the application layers above that is very 1990's textbook. What
has been very apparent in the last ten years is that for many  many
applications the data storage technology is an integral part of the
offering. (not to say we do not build business logic and data access layers)
I have worked at places that offer their solution on mysql, mssql, oracle,
but eventually they had to concentrate on one - it may well work on all, but
it certainly was not efficient. They may all have the same concepts in terms
of  sql but they work in very different ways and in order to produce an
architecture that is highly innovative and efficient you have to include the
capabilities of the data storage into major consideration. I think if you
are an end user site then the ability to choose a new DB store based on
price/performance and irrelevant to the application is still a concern but
for isv's developing innovative and efficient solutions we have very much
moved on from that viewpoint.


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: 01 February 2011 23:19
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?



Storage is something completely different. Think of business objects
rather than tables/rows/columns or file/record/fm/vm/sm/tm or even
XML.....

-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2011 10:31 a.m.
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

While that all makes sense, the one difference here between U2 and the
others (Oracle, MySQL, MSSQL) is the usage of multi-value data storage.

Even if U2 had the best GUI interface, if you are utilizing the MV storage, you
CAN'T Swap it out, without even more redevelopment.

If your going to redevelop to not use the multi-value, then why bother with
U2 at all, green screen or not.

Guess it's a matter of how much you want to redevelop.....

George

-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?


If you still have a green screen and want to put a GUI/Web interface
on it, then do the redevelopment, but look to see if you can layer
your application architecture so that the database can be swapped out
the database if you need to for whatever reason. The value is in your
application not the database.
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