Probably not. I haven't looked at our contracts and I've only had a quick scan of ours with Rocket so I'm not sure of the definition of application. If you wrote a report or new interface maybe OK. If you wrote something to keep track of your CD collection - likely not.
I'm not sure if it's just us or not (it sounded like Epicor has the same terms with Rocket), but we don't get "full" licences from Rocket for UD/SB+ - they are for the embedded application. They are significantly cheaper than the "full" licence - we've got some abnormally good terms from Rocket (at least that's what they keep telling us). Of course, we may be able to "upgrade" to full licenses - but we've never had a client that required anything like that, and since we've sunsetted our MV application the point is pretty much moot. If you ever go work for a law firm - give me a shout. That's what we do (just not with an MV based application). My original point was simply that Epicor's claim may have been valid. It sounds like you've got lots of valid grievances with them but this may not be one. Colin -----Original Message----- From: Mecki Foerthmann Colin So I wouldn't be allowed to write a single line of code using U2 or SB+ if I were one of your customers? Because that line of code wouldn't be part of your application and therefore would invalidate my U2 license, right? In that case I would never buy any application software from you. As I see it - I either buy a license for your application and separate ones for the database (U2) and development tools (SB+) or I won't buy from you at all, it's that simple! No wonder MV is struggling! On 08/07/2011 07:06, Colin Alfke wrote: > I believe our licences (as a VAR) with Rocket specify that when we sell UniData and SB+ it's "part of" the application and is only licenced to run the application it's sold with. So it sounds valid, although they may have the option to only sell UD and SB+ support. > > Colin > > >> From: meckif >> >> Well, I don't know Eclipse, but the company I currently work for is >> running Avante from Epicor. >> When the company wanted to cancel the Avante maintenance agreement >> Epicor claimed that this would automatically cancel UniData and SB+ >> support as well. >> Avante maintenance was a total waste of money since the original >> software has been heavily modified (and even though the changes were >> made by Epicor staff fixing their bugs was still chargeable) and by the >> time I could prove to Epicor that a fault was a genuine bug I had >> already a fix for it anyway. >> Of course we have the source code for Avante. >> To cut a long story short - we now have UD and SB+ support through >> another VAR and don't deal with Epicor anymore. >> >> Mecki _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
