Primarily the mv data structure - is simple yet powerfull (to a point i agree) Databasic feels like you are really in the data when programming, and not divorced via layers and api's - i know you could correlate to stored procedures, but it is not the same. I like the way you open a udt shell and then inside it can do lots of things, or pass things into it. It all follows the normal linux shell ethos. Obviously i use high level (vs2010) tools sets as well, but the ability to go command line, at linux and at u2 is great. Similarly the way the database tables are os files - bit of a plus and minus point for some - but gives you massive flexibility. Being able to write databasic in ED with one eye closed, a beer in one hand, a cat on my knee, holding a conversation with the kids and watching tv - all at the same time - even with Visual Studios being a fantastic ide, and my experience of using .net from the start and java for many years, i still seem to need to concentrate much more on these other languages, and t-sql - well its the manual out every time i venture in there.
Many more things as well - these are not really tangible business case things but personal usage things. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers Sent: 13 July 2011 21:12 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article Let's see if I can draw a response from you, Symeon :-)... What exactly makes you a U2 fanboy? What features in U2 are you happy to pay for? -Rob On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Symeon Breen <[email protected]> wrote: > I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance, > because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely > beat > u2. Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile > websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well. > > However i am also a u2 fanboy for many many reasons. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers > Sent: 13 July 2011 16:52 > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article > > Wait, why can't you add a new column to a table in MySQL or SQL Server? > > Putting aside the RDMS arguments, (*apart from familiarity*) why wouldn't > you use something like MongoDB or CouchDB, which are accessible from more > programming environments, over U2? They offer the same schema flexibility > and disk space benefits you cite with U2 and so much more. > > MongoDB, for instance, has built-in mechanisms for auto-sharding, > replication, REST API, full-text index, and I can go on and on. And it's > FREE! :-) > > I can't speak to performance, but I'd love to benchmark MongoDB versus U2. > Maybe I will. > > I know I sound like a MongoDB fanboy, but I think it's a straight-up U2 > killer. I challenge anyone to find an area where U2 beats it. > > -Rob > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jeff Schasny <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It scales well. I benchmarked 20K concurrent users for a wholesale > > distribution application on a single (HP Superdome) server and that was > 10 > > years ago. > > > > The database structure can be painlessly modified which makes it much > > easier for new applications development. Need a new field, slap it on the > > end of the table and go on with your day, try that with your favorite > > relational environment. > > > > Not so important today as it once was when disk was more expensive,but it > > uses significantly less disk space than a relational database storing the > > equivalent data. This also contributes to needing significantly less > overall > > computing power to support X number of users for a given application due > to > > more efficient IO, i.e. less disk reads required. > > > > You can use SQL, but you don't have to. This, above all, is the MY most > > significant reason to use U2. > > > > Holt, Jake wrote: > > > >> I'm not sure being cheaper than Oracle can really be touted as an > >> advantage, there aren't many things out there that are more expensive > than > >> oracle =D. And all of those things you just mentioned are also true of > many > >> FREE databases, so again, why pick U2? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: > u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.org< > [email protected]> > [mailto: > >> > u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.org< > [email protected]> > ] > >> On Behalf Of Israel, John R. > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:31 AM > >> To: 'U2 Users List' > >> Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article > >> > >> You may have answered your own question. Why do YOU like it? > >> > >> It is easy to develop, quick to code, fairly robust query language, and > a > >> lot cheaper than the BIG databases (Oracle, DB2, etc). > >> > >> > >> John Israel > >> Senior Programmer/Analyst > >> Dayton Superior Corporation > >> 1125 Byers Road > >> Miamisburg, OH 45342 > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: > u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.org< > [email protected]> > [mailto: > >> > u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.org< > [email protected]> > ] > >> On Behalf Of Holt, Jake > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:26 AM > >> To: U2 Users List > >> Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article > >> > >> I have come to like U2 over the past few years but an honest question: > >> > >> Why would anyone ever pick U2 beyond familiarity and personal > preference? > >> Can anyone think of any situation that another (and in a lot of cases a > >> *far* cheaper) database isn't a better fit? > >> > >> Maybe if U2 had it's own niche like MySQL has with web hosting, there > >> would be a market Rocket could focus on ? > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> U2-Users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users< > http://listserver.u2u > g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users> > >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> U2-Users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users< > http://listserver.u2u > g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> U2-Users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users< > http://listserver.u2u > g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > > ------------ > > Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA > > jschasny at gmail dot com > > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > > ------------ > > ______________________________**_________________ > > U2-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-users< > http://listserver.u2u > g.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users> > > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3762 - Release Date: 07/13/11 > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list [email protected] http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ----- No virus found in this message. 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