Well there ya go.  I stand corrected.  I was probably getting confused with
"shrinking" vs. "extending".  I think to shrink you have to unmount.

My mistake.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Pflugfelder <mpflugfel...@ratex.com
> wrote:

> With RedHat 5, LVM & EXT3 filesystems, you can do online resizing.
>
> First, you need to increase the size of the logical volume with "lvextend".
> Then you need to resize the filesystem with "resize2fs".
>
> I did it a few weeks ago on a virtual machine without users noticing any
> difference.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:34 AM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 -
> Experiences?
>
> I believe with EXT4, JFS, or XFS filesystems you can expand them only -
> while it is mounted.
>
> However if you are running RHEL 5 with EXT3, then you have to unmount the
> partition before you expand.  JFS is of course what AIX uses.  You can use
> JFS in Linux, if you set your filesystems up that way originally.
>
> I also assume you are using LVM along with a filesystem to manage things...
>
> See these notes:
>
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LVM
> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
>
> http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/ext4grow.html
>
> By the way, I've always thought Gentoo and Ubuntu had great documentation.
>  Red Hat is getting better...
>
> In this case, the filesystem and lvm2 utilities should be 99% the same
> across all Linux distro's, so you can find out what you need to know on
> Gentoo or Ubuntu docs, even though its RHEL.  That is not always the case...
>
> As far as the cost goes... you are probably right, since, I don't have the
> guts to not pay for Linux support and just download CentOS.
> http://www.centos.org/
>
> However, for us, its more a matter of flexibility and standardization.  I
> have Linux machines (mainly Ubuntu) doing critical business functions
> already, and if I can have one less operating system to worry about, thats
> less headache for me.
>
> Plus its way cheaper for me to set up a development machine on the fly on
> my workstation using CentOS.  Its nigh impossible to do that with AIX.
>
> AIX is great, until you need to use an open source piece of software, then
> things get tricky.
>
> The best answer I found to that problem was this:
>
> http://pware.hvcc.edu/
>
> But its maintained by a fellow at a college university, and if he ever gets
> sick of doing that... then I'm stuck with going through rpm hell.
>
> We have a pretty barebones AIX setup with zero LPAR's and local disk on one
> P550.
> So yeah I agree, on paper the cost is almost a wash, but, for us its all of
> the costs that I can't really show on paper very well...
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Dan Fitzgerald <dangf...@hotmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > I work with both RHEL & AIX, and I'm not sure that you save a whole
> > bunch of money by going Linux anymore. I won't p0ut [AD/} in here,
> > because I'm not a vendor, nor do I have a business relationship with
> > one (anymore). But I was recently investigating making this same move,
> > and my IBM vendor proposed replacing my 2 p570's (4 LPARS each) with a
> > Blade H center, populated with 2
> > PS701 Blades, for a little under $75K, including 3-year hardwarew
> > warranty &
> > 3 year AIX software 24x7 4Hr onsite maintenance. Additional Power
> > blades were $14K, but wintel blades could be had for about $7K each,
> > fitting in the same enclosure. "Membership" for a comparable RH
> > installation over 3 years was about that same $75K, before you even
> > buy hardware. Of course, you can go without software support on linux,
> > but you'd better be very good at it, especially if your implementation is
> at all non-standard (um, U2).
> >
> > I also note that one of the most common sysadmin procedures I execute
> > is expanding file systems as data footprints grow. On AIX, I allocate
> > the storage, do a cfgmgr, then issue the appropriate chfs command. In
> > Linux, to expand a file system means taking the volume offline:
> > downtime. P.S.: If I'm wrong about that, please tell me how to do it,
> thanks.
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:28:57 +0200
> > > From: u...@glennsallis.de
> > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > > Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe
> > > 11.1.4 -
> >     Experiences?
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and
> > > financially!
> > >
> > > Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are
> > > going to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of
> > > Unix and I cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using
> > > previous versions of 11.1 for the tests.
> > >
> > > Do plenty of trials and tests to identify any potential issues, and
> > > I am pretty confident you will report back with positive news.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Glenn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 02.09.2011 00:02, schrieb John Thompson:
> > > > I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL.  Basically because
> > > > IBM is putting the hatchet to "regular" support on AIX 5.3 in May
> 2012.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4
> > > > on
> > Red Hat
> > > > Enterprise 6 - 64bit?
> > > >
> > > > I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2
> > > > Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week...
> > > >
> > > > https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp
> > > >
> > > > Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6.
> > > >
> > > > I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the
> "obsolescence"
> > boat
> > > > two years from now.
> > > >
> > >
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