Hi John,

I used to run on Jbase/AIX and used xterm. Of course I had to "fix" the AIX terminfo definition because it was in such sad shape.

Regards,
Charlie Noah

On 04-30-2012 9:26 AM, John Thompson wrote:
I don't think I'm fully understanding your problem, but, I did notice this
piece in your post...

"There's nothing in the LOGIN paragraph that appears to be altering the
settings.  I'm using KDE Konsole as the emulator which sends a term type of
"xterm"."

I have never had luck with xterm emulation for any MV system (be it QM,
Universe, etc.)

You are probably better off setting your KDE konsole session to vt100 and
sorting it out from there.
Don't quote me on this, but, I don't believe most MV systems have a proper
term definition for xterm.

Just a thought, as I have had similar pains in the past...

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Bob Little<b...@marketamerica.com>  wrote:

Thanks for the replies everyone.

Yup. I know I can set my tty settings via PTERM.  I really should have
worded my question differently:

"What causes my system to switch tty settings simply by logging from the
UV account to my development account?"

I'm old enough to remember that break is a condition not an actual
character.  Uhhh... just *barely* old enough.  :)  I actually wrote a Wyse
50 emulator and modem dialer a long time ago.  Did it in x86 assembly
language too for some reason.  (Grandpa - what's a "modem"? )

Anyway - Here's a screen dump of the settings and the change.  It starts
by changing to my development account, showing the settings, logto the UV
account and show the settings, then doing LOGTO back to my dev account and
showing the settings there.

There's nothing in the LOGIN paragraph that appears to be altering the
settings.  I'm using KDE Konsole as the emulator which sends a term type of
"xterm".

rlittle@mustang:/usr/uvuser$ uv
UniVerse Command Language 11.1
Copyright Rocket Software, Inc. 1985-2011. All rights reserved.
uvuser logged on: Mon Apr 30 06:15:34 2012

:PTERM DISPLAY
MODE            EMULATE
CC              INTR    = ^C  QUIT    = ^\  SUSP    = OFF DSUSP   = OFF
SWITCH  = OFF ERASE   = DEL
                WERASE  = OFF KILL    = ^U  LNEXT   = OFF REPRINT = OFF EOF
     = ^D  EOL     = ^@
                EOL2    = ^@  FLUSH   = OFF START   = ^Q  STOP    = ^S
  LCONT   = ^_  FMC     = ^^
                VMC     = ^]  SMC     = ^\  TMC     = ^T  SQLNULL = ^N
INPUTCTL        ON
CARRIER         RECEIVE -HANGUP -LOCAL
CASE            -UCIN -UCOUT -XCASE -INVERT
CRMODE          -INLCR -IGNCR ICRNL ONLCR -OCRNL -ONOCR -ONLRET -CRONLY
DELAY           BS0 CR0 FF0 LF0 VT0 TAB0 -FILL
ECHO            ECHO ERASE=BSB KILL=LF CTRL -LF
HANDSHAKE       XON -ANY TANDEM -DTR
OUTPUT          POST -TILDE -BG CS -EXPAND
PROTOCOL        LINE=0 BAUD=38400 DATA=8 STOP=1 NONE DISABLE -STRIP
SIGNALS         ENABLE FLUSH BREAK=NULL
:SH
rlittle@mustang:/usr/uvuser$ stty -a
speed 38400 baud; rows 38; columns 109; line = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^?; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol =<undef>; eol2
=<undef>; swtch =<undef>;
start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V;
flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon
ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel -iutf8
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0
vt0 ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop
-echoprt echoctl echoke
rlittle@mustang:/usr/uvuser$ exit
:LOGTO UV
                        UniVerse System Administration
  Package    Accounts   Recovery   Spooler    sh Mem     Import     Devices


:PTERM DISPLAY
MODE            EMULATE
CC              INTR    = ^C  QUIT    = ^\  SUSP    = OFF DSUSP   = OFF
SWITCH  = OFF ERASE   = DEL
                WERASE  = OFF KILL    = ^U  LNEXT   = OFF REPRINT = OFF EOF
     = ^D  EOL     = ^@
                EOL2    = ^@  FLUSH   = OFF START   = ^Q  STOP    = ^S
  LCONT   = ^_  FMC     = ^^
                VMC     = ^]  SMC     = ^\  TMC     = ^T  SQLNULL = ^N
INPUTCTL        ON
CARRIER         RECEIVE -HANGUP -LOCAL
CASE            -UCIN -UCOUT -XCASE -INVERT
CRMODE          -INLCR -IGNCR ICRNL ONLCR -OCRNL -ONOCR -ONLRET -CRONLY
DELAY           BS0 CR0 FF0 LF0 VT0 TAB0 -FILL
ECHO            ECHO ERASE=BSB KILL=LF CTRL -LF
HANDSHAKE       XON -ANY TANDEM -DTR
OUTPUT          POST -TILDE -BG CS -EXPAND
PROTOCOL        LINE=0 BAUD=38400 DATA=8 STOP=1 NONE DISABLE -STRIP
SIGNALS         ENABLE FLUSH BREAK=NULL
:SH
rlittle@mustang:/usr/uv$ stty -a
speed 38400 baud; rows 38; columns 109; line = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^?; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol =<undef>; eol2
=<undef>; swtch =<undef>;
start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V;
flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon
ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel -iutf8
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0
vt0 ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop
-echoprt echoctl echoke
rlittle@mustang:/usr/uv$ exit
:LOGTO UVUSER


--########-----------##-------------#####----##-----##----#######----########--

--##-----##--------##--##----------##--------##----##-----##------------##-----

--##------##------##----##--------##---------##---##------##------------##-----

--##-----##------##------##------##----------##--##-------##------------##-----

--########------##--------##----##-----------####---------#####---------##-----

--##--##---------##------##------##----------##-##--------##------------##-----

--##---##---------##----##--------##---------##--##-------##------------##-----

--##----##---------##--##----------##--------##---##------##------------##-----

--##-----##----------##-------------#####----##----##-----#######-------##-----

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     S         O         F         T         W         A         R        E

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                      \251 Rocket Software, Inc. 1985-2011.
                        -- All rights reserved.

:PTERM DISPLAY
MODE            EMULATE
CC              INTR    = DEL QUIT    = ^\  SUSP    = ^Z  DSUSP   = OFF
SWITCH  = OFF ERASE   = ^H
                WERASE  = ^W  KILL    = ^X  LNEXT   = ^V  REPRINT = ^R  EOF
     = ^D  EOL     = OFF
                EOL2    = ^@  FLUSH   = ^O  START   = ^Q  STOP    = ^S
  LCONT   = ^_  FMC     = ^^
                VMC     = ^]  SMC     = ^\  TMC     = ^T  SQLNULL = ^N
INPUTCTL        ON
CARRIER         RECEIVE -HANGUP -LOCAL
CASE            -UCIN -UCOUT -XCASE -INVERT
CRMODE          -INLCR -IGNCR ICRNL ONLCR -OCRNL -ONOCR -ONLRET -CRONLY
DELAY           BS0 CR0 FF0 LF0 VT0 TAB0 -FILL
ECHO            ECHO ERASE=BSB KILL=BS CTRL -LF
HANDSHAKE       XON -ANY TANDEM -DTR
OUTPUT          POST -TILDE -BG CS EXPAND
PROTOCOL        LINE=0 BAUD=38400 DATA=8 STOP=1 NONE DISABLE -STRIP
SIGNALS         ENABLE FLUSH BREAK=NULL
:SH
rlittle@mustang:/usr/uvuser$ stty -a
speed 38400 baud; rows 38; columns 109; line = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^?; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol =<undef>; eol2
=<undef>; swtch =<undef>;
start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V;
flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon
ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel -iutf8
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0
vt0 ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop
-echoprt echoctl echoke
rlittle@mustang:/usr/uvuser$ exit
:

bob little
independent contractor
market america, inc.
1302 pleasant ridge rd.
greensboro, nc  27409
248-675-5515

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [
u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of Wjhonson [
wjhon...@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:40 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Backspace sends break signal in UV

Bob at TCL type PTERM during a session where the backspace does a break,
and post the text of that to us
It's very likely that you have the INTR defined as your backspace

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