That's the rub isn't it? We have a few thousand programs written over 30 years, and only a limited staff, and users always want more. Users don't see the need to go back and *fix* code that's working, and/or are not willing to pay you to do it.
It's a cost-benefit issue. For a site that doesn't *have* to be 24-7 but can be say 22-7, it's safer to shutdown, then backup. You can't always control every piece of code someone has written. -----Original Message----- From: Wally Terhune <wterh...@rocketsoftware.com> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 2:18 pm Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud If you have put transaction processing semantics in your code you will have logical consistency with dbpause. For RFS enabled systems, dbpause forces a checkpoint. Wally Terhune Technical Support Engineer Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA t: +1 720 475 8055 **e: wterh...@rocketsoftware.com **w: rocketsoftware.com/u2 -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:08 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud You get an extra benefit from stopud and startud in that your database will be consistent. dbpause does not enforce consistency Personally I would never suggest using dbpause to take a snapshot because of that issue. You're never guarenteed that you have a clean consistent copy. -----Original Message----- From: John Jenkins <u2g...@btinternet.com> To: 'U2 Users List' <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 6:02 am Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud "dbpause" and "dbresume" allow any background processes (e.g. PHANTOM or WebDE (Redback)) to continue running. You do not have to have a restart procedure. Additionally, as long as your backup methodology is brief - a SAN "snap" or a mirrored drive split - then anyone using Telnet, UniObjects or ODBC not even notice and can continue uninterrupted. Stopping UniData menas terminating those sessions I'd look at what is blocking your dbpause - there is a Tech Tip in the U2 knowledgebase.- search on "dbpause" - you should find SFMA-13082. Regards JayJay -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of thomas.bo...@firstgroup.com Sent: 26 July 2012 10:34 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud Importance: High U2users, Will I get the same benefits by using stopud and startud as oppose to dbpause and dbresume? The reason for my question is that my server is running unidata 7.2 but 50% of the time cannot resume and stays in dbpause state long after backup? Regards, Thomas Boadu | IS Systems Manager _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
