For "ED" on UV we're each partially right, partially wrong.

IB<space><enter> puts you in input mode instead of inserting a blank line like it should, like I<space><enter> does.

But IB<space><space><enter> , does insert a <space>. At some earlier release it don't think it did. It did what IB<space><enter> should (but doesn't) do.

I suppose you want to quibble of over "the finest of 70's technology", too.
How about "Better than EDLIN".   We can probably agree on that.

Thank-you for the nit-picking.  I feel cleaner already.
Chuck

On 2/7/2014 7:03 PM, Howder, Scott wrote:
Sorry, meant to add the following on my previous post:

At least this is true in AE on Unidata....



Scott Howder
Assistant CIO
Cedarville University
howd...@cedarville.edu
937-766-7905


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Howder, Scott <howd...@cedarville.edu>wrote:

IB<space><space><enter> technically does not insert a blank line.  It will
insert a line with a space at the beginning.  You can verify this by doing
the following:

IB<space><space><enter>
A<space>X

You will notice that the "X" is indented by one space.

As others have noted, to actually insert a blank line with nothing in it
you would have to use the ` character as in:

IB<space>`

or

I<space>`

Kind of picky perhaps but in some cases the difference matters.



Scott Howder
Assistant CIO
Cedarville University
howd...@cedarville.edu
937-766-7905


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Charles Stevenson <
stevenson.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

& it's been that way for, oh I dunno, going back to PI, 30+ years?
That's in input mode.

Here are some related ED facts about edit-mode that I've found Pickies
(vs. Primates) don't seem to know:

R<space> <enter>   replaces current line with a blank line.

I<space>this is some text<enter>
    will insert a line "this is some text"but leave yoiu in edit-mode, not
insert-mode.

IB will put you in input mode BEFORE the line you're on.

IB<space>this is a some text<enter>
    will insert a line "this is some text"  BEFORE the current line
    but leave yoiu in edit-mode, not insert-mode.

There  is a bit of an inconsistency with IB:
IB<space><space><enter>
     Inserts a blank line BEFORE current line.  I don't know why 2 spaces
are needed. Oh, well.

R<enter>   repeats the previous full-line Replacement
C<enter>   repeats the previous Change command.
R this is some text<enter>
     replaces thw whole line.
R/ABC/XYZ
   is really  C/ABC/XYZ

So if you pickies are used to saying
     R/ABC/XYZ/
That is really a Change command,   C/ABC/XYZ.
So subsequent C<enter> will repeat your R/ABC/XYZ/


Finally, there is the actually helpful HELP<enter> command. (Check out
HELP SEQ<enter>.)

AE aficionados may quibble over the ED  motto,  "The very finest of 1970s
technology!"

cds


On 2/6/2014 4:24 AM, Clif Oliver wrote:

The UniVerse ED verb in input mode accepts a *single* space as a null
line indicator.


Regards,

Clif


On Feb 5, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Daniel McGrath <dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com>
wrote:

  A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE,
the back tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going in
insert mode and not need to worry about it.

Regards,
Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-bounces@
listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Scholl
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I
use dots in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and do
R/.//50 to remove the dot.

-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
Did you try removing those?



-----Original Message-----
From: Woodward, Bob <bob_woodw...@k2sports.com>
To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that
field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to
make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting,
instead, then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

Martin:

This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.
Maybe "@RECORD<178,1>" is the preferred method in UV.

Bill
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* msch...@martinscholl.com
*To:* U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
*Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
*Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

UniVerse.

I want to create a dictionary item that extract value <178,1>

I thought

1.       I
2.       EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
3.       .
4.       .
5.       1L
6.       S


Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?



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