You are correct that the built-in XML <--> U2 utilities go to sub-values and
I think it makes sense to ignore the text values information at this point.
Thanks.  --dawn

Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
www.tincat-group.com

Take and give some delight today.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald Bourret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XML and U2

Thanks. That clarifies things and I'll modify the entry for UniVerse to
account for this.

You do raise a new question when you say:

"The database comes pre-loaded with functions on multi-values and
multi-valued sub-values and users write similar functions to lower
levels if needed."

Does this mean that you can have sub-sub-values, sub-sub-sub-values, and
so on, ad infinitum? If so, do the XML tools handle this, adding more
sub-elements as needed?

The XML <=> DB mapping languages for UniData and UniVerse don't seem to
handle this, except that the documentation for UniData seems to allow
one level beneath sub-values, saying something about adding another
sub-element in the case of text marks. (I dutifully ignored this, having
spent too much time on the entries already :)

-- Ron

"Dawn M. Wolthuis" wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob --
> It is the rare table, indeed, that is created with a sql CREATE TABLE
> statement in a U2 database.  U2 has SQL as a second language.  It is not
> really an RDBMS, but uses a data model very similar to the one used by XML
> (a tree or di-graph structure).
> 
> With the CREATE-FILE command a file gets created and then when a
dictionary
> is populated, it is descriptive of the data (so not quite the same as an
> RDBMS that way) and can include sub-fields.
> 
> The database comes pre-loaded with functions on multi-values and
> multi-valued sub-values and users write similar functions to lower levels
if
> needed.  Let me know if that doesn't quite answer the question.  Thanks.
> --dawn
> 
> Dawn M. Wolthuis
> Tincat Group, Inc.
> www.tincat-group.com
> 
> Take and give some delight today.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jerry Banker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:30 AM
> To: U2-Users
> Subject: Fw: XML and U2
> 
> I finally got an answer back from Ron Bourret and he has added the U2
> products to his XML enabled list of databases. Anybody want to answer his
> question? I could do it but I'm kind of busy right now.
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronald Bourret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: XML and U2
> 
> This is to let you know that I've finally added UniVerse and UniData to
> the list. You can see the entries at:
> 
>    http://www.rpbourret.com/xml/ProdsXMLEnabled.htm#unidata
>    http://www.rpbourret.com/xml/ProdsXMLEnabled.htm#universe
> 
> Comments / corrections welcome.
> 
> (One question I had was whether UniVerse supports multi-subvalued
> columns as well as multi-valued columns. There are a number of
> references to subvalues in the documents, but the UniVerse CREATE TABLE
> command does not seem to support them...)
> 
> Thanks for you patience,
> 
> -- Ron
> 
> > Jerry Banker wrote:
> >
> > Ronald Bourret,
> > Looking over your list of XML enabled databases I was impressed
> > however I noticed that you included IBM's DB2 product but excluded
> > IBM's most XML like databases referred to as their U2 product line
> > (uniVerse and Unidata). Both U2 products are post-relational and use a
> > nested file architecture very much similar to XML design and do have
> > XML transformation tools (uniVerse more so than Unidata at the latest
> > revision). XML documents can be output through their query language
> > and imported into the database through simple commands. Another
> > advantage is that the database can be accessed through it's native
> > query language or with SQL. You should look into these products if you
> > have not already.
> > http://www-3.ibm.com/software/data/u2/
> >
> > Jerry Banker
> > Member U2UG
> 
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