Konrad: 

Yes you can find an instance where EUM picks out the maximin solution. But such a 
situation is unstable with respect to changes in the probabilities.

Example with two gambles neither of which dominates the other.

g1 = (U11 = 5, U12 = 10, P11 = P12 = .5)  has EU(g1) = 7.5

g2 = (U21 = 3, U22 = 11, P21 = P22 = .5) has EU(g2)  = 7

g1 is  maximin and maximizes expected utility

now change the gambles so that the payoffs are the same but the probabilities are 
different

P'11 = .6, P'12 = .4  and P'21 = .25, P'22 = .75

g'1 is still maximin as maximin is independent of probability.

But EU(g'1) = 7 , EU(g'2) = 9 and g'2 maximizes expected utility.

Point is, EU is continuous (in fact linear) in probability.  Assume no
one gamble dominates the others. Suppose that there is a configuration
of the probabilities in the gambles so that EU agrees with
maximin. Then I can always modify the probabilities so that EU moves
away from the maximin solution. Hence, EUM cannot generally support a
maximin strategy over all choices among gambles.

In your chess example, I suspect that there is a dominant strategy.

When there is a dominant strategy, then probability is irrelevant even in EUM.

Bob.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Konrad Scheffler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:58 PM
To: Christian Borgelt; Bob Welch
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UAI] Allais' paradox


On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Christian Borgelt wrote:

> when I wrote the post, I thought briefly about the choice of the
> utility function and whether it could be used to handle this case,
> but I rejected the idea. <justification snipped>

I have not really thought about how one would incorporate the variance 
into the utility function directly, or whether this would be a good idea. 
It just seemed that that would be an obvious thing to try in response to 
your objection.

But personally, I would expect that a more likely utility in actual brains 
might use the probability and desirability of all (or a set of) possible 
outcomes, which would obviously take the variance into account.

As a simple example, let's say I want to buy a car tomorrow. I don't care
how much candy I can buy, if I can't buy a car I'll be devastated. A car
costs $10000. I own $x. My utility function is P(x >= 10000). Or I could 
say my utility is a step function u(10000-x).

If I own nothing, I will seek out risk; if I already own $10000 I'll be 
risk averse.

In real life, things become more complex: I might quite like a car, but I 
also have to worry about whether I'll have food to eat tonight and whether 
I'll be able to pay the rent a month from now. But if we take all possible 
outcomes into account we can (in theory, at least) come up with a suitable 
(highly nonlinear) utility function. 


Bob Welch wrote:

> There are some risk averse behaviors that are independent of
> probability. The maxi-min strategy is one. Consider a set of possible
> compound gambles each with a set of possible outcomes.  The maxi-min
> strategy looks at each gamble for the worst possible outcome and
> chooses the gamble which guarantees the best among the worst outcomes,
> irrespective of the probability. This extremely risk averse strategy
> is not possible with expected utility.

On the contrary, this is easily achieved:

In the car example, if I already have $10000, all I need to do is
guarantee that the worst possible outcome is nonnegative. If only one of
the gambles has this property I will choose that one, no matter how small
the probability of negative outcome in the other gambles.

Or consider a game such as chess, where one is again trying to maximise 
the probability of winning (let's ignore draws for the purpose of this 
discussion). The above strategy is routine for a player in a 
good position: you don't want to risk the position being overturned, no 
matter how small the chance. On the other hand, in a bad position you 
follow the opposite strategy, seeking out risk.

Konrad

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