This is the problem with OOBE that the manufacturers are fighting with now due to the FCC changing the rules. The technology needed on the transmit side either doesn’t exist or is going to be highly expensive. Bye-bye $100 radios to make it work with the same power levels.
Rory From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:41 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs This would add a decent amount to the cost of the CPE... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> ________________________________ From: "Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:16:54 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs It's not always that necessary on the client side anyways. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: Sad panda. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> ________________________________ From: "Ben Moore" <[email protected]> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby <[email protected]> wrote: So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Well we've been running their AC gear and it is not the same. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an "Earlier Version" type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann <[email protected]> wrote: Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being > released...so it will be staggered. > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway > <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam >> DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to >> schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. >> >> >> >> rory >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM >> >> >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs >> >> >> >> Ben Moore via wispa.org >> >> 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) >> >> >> >> We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available >> on these early next year. >> >> >> >> The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 >> and DFS? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Ben Moore >> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs >> >> >> >> Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current >> performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted >> shortly. >> >> >> >> There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. >> >> I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... >> but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no >> backwards compatibility. >> >> On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: >> > Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before >> > being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There >> > are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding >> > backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before >> > adding more variables). >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the >> > Backwards compatibility of the new units?____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > *Steven Barnes____* >> > >> > GM____ >> > >> > PCSWIN.com____ >> > >> > Howard LLC.____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > *From:*[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > [mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM >> > >> > >> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP >> > locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____ >> > >> > Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only >> > Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p >> > >> > So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are >> > there other changes as well? ____ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > *From:*[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > [[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Ben Moore >> > [[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM____ >> > >> > >> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being >> > added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that >> > can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on >> > PTMP networks in the wild ;)____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > wrote:____ >> > >> > ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the >> > same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is >> > what happens when you don't make new stuff look different >> > :p >> > ____ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > *From:*[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > [[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Mike >> > Hammett [[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>] >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM >> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. >> > >> > The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new >> > things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I >> > didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look >> > any different. >> > >> > Ooooohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new >> > software?____ >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> > >> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+Intellige >> > ntComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intell >> > igent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>____ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > *From: *"Ben Moore" <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM >> > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > The 3 new products announced today: ____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only____ >> > >> > NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam____ >> > >> > PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Also, all of the software updates:____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Some highlights:____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)____ >> > >> > - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate >> > assessment of channel conditions____ >> > >> > - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF >> > Diagnostics, etc...)____ >> > >> > - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced >> > shortly.____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Thanks,____ >> > >> > Ben____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > wrote:____ >> > >> > We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen >> > any problems with them. >> > >> > I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I >> > hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing >> > new.____ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > *From:*[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > [[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of >> > Mike >> > Hammett [[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>] >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM >> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > For those of you that have them... are they >> > working well? >> > >> > Was there anything new in their announcement today? 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