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On Dec 9, 2016 7:44 AM, "Stuart Pierce" <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's not the same hardware.
>
> On Fri, December 9, 2016 7:40 am, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > It turns a UBNT CPE into an ePMP CPE.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> >
> >
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >
> >
> >
> > Midwest Internet Exchange
> >
> >
> >
> > The Brothers WISP
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: "Stuart Pierce" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 4:39:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
> >
> >
> > Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it
> > makes it perform better?
> >
> > Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter into
> >  any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless
> > performance of the UBNT device, then why put it on?
> >
> > I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect
> > Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to
> call
> >  it the 'moderator' function at a debate.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote:
> >
> >> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> >> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
> >>
> >> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift
> >> upgrade.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Nothing on the AP side.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE. I can say
> >>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna. I've heard better
> >>> filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure
> >>> from my point of view.
> >>>
> >>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> >>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
> >>>>  interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
> >>>> <[email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
> >>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKal
> >>>>>>>> b>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-sol
> >>>>>>>> ut ions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> >>>>>>>>  <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
> >>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this
> >>>>>>>> option.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from
> >>>>>>>>> all you
> >>>>>>>> guinea
> >>>>>>>>> pigs :P
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Epmp elevate! AP swap done in an hour then go hook up
> >>>>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>> customers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> +1!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes
> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz
> >>>>>>>>>>>  channels and Airmax we had not applied Wireless
> >>>>>>>>>>> Security. We decided to
> >>>>>>>>>>> start adding security to all clients. (backhauls
> >>>>>>>>>>> already had security)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and
> >>>>>>>>>>> CPEs (5.6.9
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ALL)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP
> >>>>>>>>>>> side an some
> >>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>> the CPE. Also have had several AP’s just stop passing
> >>>>>>>>>>>  traffic
> >>>>>>>> till
> >>>>>>>>>>> they were rebooted. Funky communication with AC2 and
> >>>>>>>>>>> all around goofiness of our network that we never had
> >>>>>>>>>>>  without security.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this
> >>>>>>>>>>> decision. Any thoughts or ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> P.S. ePMP is not an answer Josh. ☺
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve Barnes
> >>>>>>>>>>> Wireless Operations Manager
> >>>>>>>>>>> New Lisbon Broadband
> >>>>>>>>>>> NLBC.COM
> >>>>>>>>>>> PCSWIN.COM
> >>>>>>>>>>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
> >>>>>>>>>>> <(765)%20584-2288>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> -RickG KyWiFi
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>> --
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> >>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>
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