Pretty sure Ubnt ditched beamforming a while ago.

Josh Luthman
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On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:22 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> wonder if beamforming is coming for 2.4 ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 9, 2016 7:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>
> Replace beam and ubnt ap
>
> With beam running epmp on epmp ap
>
> Licensed 27 per sm.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Dec 9, 2016 8:31 PM, "RickG" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> With that said, I'm assuming that the elevate! firmware buys you motorola
>> proprietary protocol or am I missing something?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Wi-Fi and epmp tdd
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2016 8:18 PM, "RickG" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2.4 is Q1 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> XM and XW both work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in 2.4GHz?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>>>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift
>>>>>> upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say
>>>>>>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>>>>>>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> view.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>>>>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>>>>>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this
>>>>>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all
>>>>>>>>>>>> you guinea
>>>>>>>>>>>> > pigs :P
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>> > <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other
>>>>>>>>>>>> customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> +1!
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz
>>>>>>>>>>>> channels and
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Airmax
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start
>>>>>>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs
>>>>>>>>>>>> (5.6.9 ALL)
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side
>>>>>>>>>>>> an some one
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing
>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic till
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all
>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> goofiness of our network that we never had without security.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> thoughts or ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Steve Barnes
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> New Lisbon Broadband
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> NLBC.COM
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> PCSWIN.COM
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <%28765%29%20584-2288>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <(765)%20584-2288>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> -RickG KyWiFi
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
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