Well we replaced the radios and jumpers to go from (-95)+ to -57/-57 for a
while to end up at -59/-70.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> replace dishes, use existing radios, otherwise if you replace the dish and
> radios both you will still be scratching your head with what fixed it
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:51 PM, David Hulsebus <dhulse...@portative.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Water caused us an issue on a RG-30 2ft dish a couple years ago. Signals
>> degraded slightly over the first year, then a deluge of spring rains caused
>> huge signal losses.
>>
>>
>> It was not a slant polarized horn. We had pulled rockets out and replaced
>> with AF5x's.
>>
>>
>> It was the feed horn. When the antenna was lowered water poured out the
>> front. Once it dried a radome cover was added and we put it back in
>> service. No problems since.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/2018 2:31 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> We had one AF-5x link where one chain dropped by 10 or 15db (I don't
>> remember exacty... it was awhile ago), and changing the radios and pigtails
>> on both ends of the link made no difference. We ended up fixing it by
>> replacing one of the dishes.
>>
>> My best guess was that the feedhorn itself had some water in it (this was
>> probably one of our oldest Rocket dishes), but by the time I got it back to
>> the shop and dissected it, everything was dry, so I never could prove it.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>> behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 9:20 AM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems
>>
>> This is what we did - new radios and jumpers on both sides.  It cleared
>> up for a few days and at this point it looks like chain1 is ~10 db lower
>> than chain0 (which is back to the 60s).  We'll see what happens after a
>> couple of days, it's passing way more bandwidth than what we need so it
>> isn't necessary to get that last few bits.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> swap radios on both ends just to start ruling stuff out....
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a similar issue we had with AF5U and never got fixed
>>>>
>>>> UBNT still says it's thermal???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/19/2018 11:03 PM, RickG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> True. I'm now dealing with a bunch of my 900MHz towers doing the same
>>>> thing :(
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Really weird that both pig tails have the exact same level of
>>>>> problems, though.  Both chains dropped from 60s to 80s to 95+ and the link
>>>>> obviously disappeared.  The signals reported on the AirOS interface, I
>>>>> mean.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spectrum scan still shows -50 to nearby APs and -60 on the BH
>>>>> frequency.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice today!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine.  Both sides see
>>>>>>> each other at -60ish.  It attempts to register and fail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice!  Also higher
>>>>>>>> modulation...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice
>>>>>>>>> that get affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> high link margins is about the only thing you can do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right on the money.  Back up to 61 now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" <
>>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and
>>>>>>>>>>> another north/south link that has 0 change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee
>>>>>>>>>>>> that the ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple 
>>>>>>>>>>>> winters
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago on an AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> until the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ice melts off..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at 4am and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 80 db.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is covered in ice.  BH is 12.5 miles north/south.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line with the af5x)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no problems.  Ruled out thermal inversion or anything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas besides bad jumpers/water or the dish got moved?  It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was only 25 mph winds, which admittedly is pretty faster for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to bounce ideas before climbing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
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