Jason Grieves wrote:
What are the chances of making this accessible to low vision and mobility
impaired users?
By 'this' I presume you mean the installer?
I want to try to identify very clearly what components and features we are
actually talking about here so we can set realistic priorities. We should
separate out issues relating to d-i (which will mainly be used for Live-CD
boot and server install in the future) and UbuntuExpress. I will start a
page at UbuntuExpress/GnomeUserInterface/Accessibility where we can list
the key requirements for that.
ok
Also, we are generally power users, and so installation is an important
issue, because we install a new system every 6 months or even twice a day
for testing purposes. However, the future of Ubuntu may well be on
pre-installed systems, in which case the daily-use tools are more important
to a much larger group. If we can make these tools better, they have a
greater chance of being installed by default.
True but can't that argument be used for not even worrying about speakup in
the kernel?
Speech and magnification are again completely different technical issues.
They are combined in tools like Gnopernicus because they are often used by
the same group. If we want to focus on better magnification, then I think
we should write up a separate plan for that. (I believe Daniel has already
started working on building gnome-mag with XDamage, yay!)
Yes, but my point was if we are going to make an installation accessible you
have got to make it accessible to all disabilities, imo, if possible.
Perhaps if speakup is easy to use, those w/o screen reader experience can
use it. You are probably right, take it 1 step at a time. Just trying to
represent us low vision people here :). It kills me when i I have to watch
my friend Steve try to install linux because the dang font is so small.
1) low vision. [snip] Shortcut keys?
Hm, it didn't occur to me that that keyboard shortcuts were as important to
low-vision users, but that makes sense.
Yep going from 1 top of the screen to the bottom in like 4x mode full
screen magnification takes alot longer than say alt+tabbing :)
2) Mobility Access. If everything is keyboard accessible I think that
will help a lot. Obviously the current install is, but chances of
implementing something else?
So I think we should focus on Ubuntu Express since it's now being actively
developed. I'll start a page now. Please add to it (and help keep it
clear), and then we should track the development carefully. When will the
first testable versions be out, anyone?
OK sounds good to me. I haven't looked into Ubuntu Express much, I guess I
need to start investigating
- Henrik
Great meeting today everyone.
~Jason
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