On 05/30/2011 12:19 AM, Chris wrote: > What I think is going wrong is difference in jargon. When the Lubuntu > devs/people asked for a roadmap is what the Accessibility people > would see as an priority list. When the Lubuntu people have their > priority list, then they can create their own roadmap.
That sounds fine to me :) My current background assumption is that Lubuntu is "late to the accessibility party", just as it is late to "officialness", and that the other (already official) Ubuntu variants are, therefore, already substantially further along this particular path than we currently are in Lubuntu. So that we can better discover what needs to be done within Lubuntu, and in what order, I would like to know, with some reasonable degree of clarity and specificity: (A) What are the expectations of those seeking "adding accessibility" to Lubuntu, and what is the relative priority of each such expectation? (B) How do these expectations compare to what is already implemented in each of the other Ubuntu variants, and in Debian? (C) How do these expectations compare to what each of the other Ubuntu variants plans to do in the current (Oneiric) development cycle? Links to current information on what Debian and each Ubuntu variant has done, and plans to do, in this regard would therefore be useful. Lower priority, but still very useful, would be to also know: (D) How can we know when we have "got there" -- how can we verify that Lubuntu (or LXDE, or an application within Lubuntu) has attained a particular desired level or standard of accessibility? (I'm aware of http://www.w3.org/WAI/ for web site accessibility -- what are the application or OS or DE equivalents used in the Debian/Ubuntu community?). At this point, I *really* don't mind what anyone calls this documentation (specifications, blueprints, roadmaps, priority lists, other?). I also do not mind who created it (the Ubuntu accessibility team, or development teams within each Ubuntu variant, or even sabdfl himself!). My immediate concern is to determine whether such current documentation actually exists at all, and if it does, preferably some idea of its current level of acceptance or "officialness" (because great documentation that everyone else is ignoring may be less helpful than mediocre documentation that everyone else has already agreed to follow and implement!). And, very fundamentally: if this documentation does exist, where can we read it? Everything I have found so far seems either not actually a priority list/roadmap, not really Ubuntu-specific, or old and out of date. So perhaps my Google skills are lacking in this (accessibility) domain, and I need a little more help finding the real thing. If these requests and questions are unreasonable, or expose a total misunderstanding of the situation on my part, so be it, please enlighten me further :) Perhaps the most useful thing I have found so far is http://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/3.0/accessibility-devel-guide.html -- which is GNOME documentation, not Debian or Ubuntu documentation, and Lubuntu does not use GNOME. If, in the end, all of this boils down to "as a first major useful step, please just add orca and espeak and their dependencies to the Lubuntu CD"... that would be good to know :) Jonathan -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
