Okay. So. This is my first time posting here, and I've only been subscribed to this for a few days in the hopes that I may contribute something (as a friend, a loyal Ubuntu user, suggested that Ubuntu may need more designers for their next cycle release).

That being said, I think it needs to also be said that the infighting amongst the teams and characters is severely disappointing and is a severe detriment to both the progress of Ubuntu, the organization of the team, the team's mandate and its priorities.

Ideologies aside, the entire few days I've been subscribed have appeared to be bickering and ideological ranting.
and both have their place, but is this it?

The first question should be, in this discussion, not WHAT software is used, but how the team can use it effectively. Unless you are sticking stickers on Ubuntu packaging assuring that everything was made in programs used in the OS itself, the argument may not be worthwhile persuing.

That being said, the issue is not about proprietary software.
The issues are:
1) Can all of the teams use their own software effectively, and share formats amongst members in a productive manner? 2) Do these tools, on a personal and team level, meet the objectives of the design and artwork, both in workflow, output, and efficiency?

I feel I must stress item number one, as that is the BOTTOM line for all Ubuntu projects. Ubuntu, as an OS, has a mandate of being for People. This mandate is the bottom, core expression of all graphical and interface elements of the ubuntu operating system. The tools used is of little importance, as long as the team can work together (in file formats, coordination and goals) to fufil the objectives of the Ubuntu operating system.

Additionally, as Ubuntu seeks to be "for people" -- and, that brings about the important question -- how many users are going to become indignant because their interface (assuming it meets their usage and aesthetic desires) was created in a mish-mash of programs?
how many users will know, or care, unless we make it a point?

At this point, I severely hope that this is not the sum and total of my experience in the Ubuntu Art Team (maybe I joined at the wrong time?) but I believe that these arguments belong on a personal level, and not on a team and professional level.

The choice is yours, but keep in mind that potential additions to the team may not be so inspired by the activites on this mailing list.

~ Joel



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