I'm going to try to mimick Ken's mockups as close as I can with a true gtk theme. If anyone here would like to help out with it email and we can take it offline. I'll start using the pixmap engine for things I can't get any current themes to make then attempt to alter some other engines to do it and replace the pixmap parts. ________________________________ > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:52:09 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Moving things forwards. > > "Ooh, what's that one?" > > OSX is long held as one of the boldest and most unique designs in the > industry, when Windows was just toying with XP - Apple made the ultra-shiny, > over-glossed look and threw in every effect they could think of and paired it > with a pinstripe. If you look at OSX now, compared to when it was first > demonstrated, it has toned down dramatically; no pinstripes, for example. > > That being said, I'm a firm believer in designs that are both bold and > unique. If it's unique, people will remember it. If it's bold, people will > talk about it. When you see a desktop screen-shot of Vista, you know it's > Vista. Vista is bold, unique. When you see OSX, you can see the dock - the > signature - Unique to OSX. Apple has always been bold, and the big "X" on the > box shouts at you. "Ooh, what's that one?" > > If you want to make an argument for just being Unique - that bold should be > beyond our users, then I would be tempted to present Amiga. There's an > operating unique to itself, but there's no oomph in the design. I've only > ever -heard- of these Amiga users, and I only hear that the Amiga users out > there are the ones unwilling to let it go. I doubt anyone will walk by an > Amiga in a store and be captured by it. It's unique, and users of Amiga > reminisce about it - but it's not being talked about in anything other than > fond memories. > > Linux users have posted pictures of Vista-clone desktops, or OSX-like > machines. You forget them, because it's not unique or ever as polished as the > original. Linux/Ubuntu is not Vista, it's not OSX, it's not Amiga: Ubuntu > needs to be Unique and bold - Capturing - Ubuntu. Ubuntu can be that, and be > user-friendly at the same time. It doesn't need to be jet-black to be bold, > bold isn't a colour or a specific design. It doesn't need to have patterns > and pinstripes - it needs to stand out; "Ooh, what's that one?" > > When 3 computers are lined up at computer store X - you don't want Ubuntu to > be passed. If it makes the stand, people will notice it and be drawn to it > for it's beauty - and stay for the amazing operating system it is. You want > whoever passes that computer to say... > > "Ooh, what's that one?" > > On Jan 2, 2008 9:43 PM, Andrew Laignel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who wrote: >> How does a conventional 'vote for the one you like' allow us to see this? >> > Maybe you could vote 1...5 on each entry then look at the tally graphs > for distribution? >>> into love it/hate it camps which should be avoided at all cost. Ideally >>> a default theme should not be even noticed by the public - being neutral >>> and innofensive as possible should be the goal. A perfect demonstration >>> of this is Apple, where the current theme for OSX is crips, clean, >>> stylish and probably as neutral as you can get - no loud colours, >>> drastic layouts or hard edges. >>> >> >> AFAIK, this has never been the aim for the Ubuntu default theme - and >> I don't think it ever will be. Sometimes going for love it or hate it >> beats going for bland. At least then people see it! >> >> As long as I can remember the Ubuntu Theme has been part of the >> branding, something that helps make Ubuntu known, something for people >> to talk about. From this point of view, it has worked very well - if >> you see a screenshot of linux and it is brown, you _know_ it is ubuntu >> - if you see a blue distro.... who knows... > I'm not saying don't be brown, or to lose the Ubuntu theme, but to avoid > anything overly stylized. Most people using a computer will never touch > the default theme settings, and the less likely that a sizable > percentage will be sitting in front of something they hate the better. > If people want something really cool/different (ultra dark/steampunk > etc) then maybe there should be some alternate themes shipped with it so > if someone does have a look into the menus something is there. > > Ulitmately if you really want a radical theme you can with very little > effort. The focus should be on giving the people who simply don't care > about the subject as pleasant an experience as possible, rather than > forcing them to change it because it's horrible (to them). > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > -- > -Ken Vermette
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