On Monday 30 June 2008 13:53:40 Nick Russell wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:35 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > > On Monday 30 June 2008 12:29:29 Nick Russell wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > Rather than necessarily set up opposing 'camps' (not intrinsically a > > > bad thing, but it can be), is it possible for people to get involved in > > > the development of this theme? - to improve the entirely-to-be-expected > > > early flaws. > > > > Yes, it is possible for others to get involved with this. > > Ah that came out wrong, I wasn't meaning to criticise you, I was > suggesting to the critics that they do something about the theme (get > involved!) rather than just criticise.
No worries, I didn't take it poorly. Naturally we'd like any and all help we can get, no matter which theme. > > > It doesn't appear to have a statement of concept on the wiki with > > > screenshots for people to comment on. I know it's possible for people > > > to submit bugs against it, but I think it would be useful if it were on > > > the wiki as well. The statement of concept is very important, because > > > when someone says they don't like it, you can simply point them to the > > > concept so they can understand why YOU like it and think it is the > > > right direction to go in. You can also explain who the audience is > > > (i.e. it may not be designed for the kind of people who are criticising > > > it, if it is then that's when you know you need to reconsider aspects > > > of your design). > > > > Actually, this is the first update for intrepid of the long term work we > > started during the hardy cycle. The wiki page just needs to be updated > > :-) > > Cool. Is the Hardy page about the work done so far still available? I > didn't find it on my (admittedly brief) look. :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HardyDesign was the original page. In the meantime it is very out of date as the orange parts are now all gone :p I'll update the page sometime today (when I am done working on the theme itself for today). > > > IMO the wiki allows designer(s) and critics/audience to respond in a > > > much less clinical/technical way to a design than does launchpad. > > > > I am unsure what you mean by "a much less clinical/technical" way as > > anyone who wants to work on this needs to have the technical skills to do > > so and/or go through a more elaborate process of submitting their ideas. > > Sorry that wasn't very clear. I completely agree that the people > involved in the actual development need to be technically skilled. I was > referring to the wiki (and indeed the forums) as a good place for the > community to respond with more general comments about the theme (i.e. I > like this, I don't like this, why I feel that way). What I'm getting at > I suppose is that whilst obviously there will be technical/accessibility > issues which are best reported on launchpad, there will also be more > abstract/vague art-critic/audience-critic responses which would be best > place somewhere else (forums/wiki/individuals blogs)? It would probably be best if such responses went to the forum. Any "real" problems with specific apps should be reported as bugs. I know this means that we will have lots of bugs but it is the only way I know of to get a good idea of which apps have problems using a dark theme. Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
