On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 17:44 +0100, François Degrave wrote: > Vishnoo a écrit : > > On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 17:18 +0100, François Degrave wrote:> > > >> On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 17:04 +0100, François Degrave wrote: > >> > >>>> On Wednesday 17 February 2010 07:38:23 am Merk wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> I'm not asking why the OS X was directly copied instead of either Windows> >>>>>> one. I'm asking why any existing Word icon was copied at all.> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> It is a mimetype and as such needs to visually represent a certain type of > >>>>> file. It goes without saying that when everyone associates a certain > >>>>> look/letter/number with something they don't search for other visual> >>>>> metaphors. People expect certain things to look certain ways ;) > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Ken> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Ok but it feels uncomfortable > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Thats really awesome. :)> >>>> >>> Then using those files types should be reduced rather than complaining> >>> about the icon ;)> >>> > >>> > >> Those filetypes are supported by OOo. No need to associate them to icons> >> referencing to Ms applications not supported under Linux.> >> > >> > The icon is used only when someone is saving the file to be MS office > > complaint.> > Why cant we stop using that format , rather than nit-pick over what one> > has just chosen to continue to support? > >> > > >> As far as I> >> know, there is no reference to Adobe in the pdf files icons. > >>> >> > >> > I'd suggest you check again ;)> > > Ok well, you are right. And that is basically... lame. Evince is the> default PDF reader, why should the icon be related to Adobe?There is a difference between PDF and Adobe / Evince. :) PDF is an _open_ Portable Document Format. and the logo isnt even been used in full. ;) Adobe is a company with several apps and "Reader" , "Acrobat" is the pdf reader and editor respectively. Note the adobe logo isnt used. Their logo is different. Evince is an app too and not a format ...
Ok sorry obviously you widely misunderstood my point, maybe I was not clear enough in my previous mail. Of course, the icon for the pdf *filetype* is a reference to adobe; it is red/white with a big A in it -- see attached. That is not acceptable (nor is it to put a "ms word" or "ms powerpoint" logo in a *filetype* icon). The only thing the user has to know is that it is a pdf file, period. In MacOsX, the icon is like that (ok that's a .ps here, but it's the same for .pdf): http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/docs/openoffice-mac/temp-ps-file.png Do you see a reference to Adobe Reader? No of course, because it is not the default reader. Putting a reference to Adobe makes the user think it will open with Adobe when double-clicking on the file.
The problem is the same for the psd file icon (attached): why putting a Photoshop logo? The user only has to know it is an image, with the psd extension. The photoshop logo is a nonsense here.
(You can try asking the evince developers if they think it is a good idea to have icons for *pdf filetype* referencing to Adobe by default in Ubuntu, I'm pretty sure what the answer will be. Same with OpenOffice developers and doc, xls and ppt files icons.)
Cheers, François
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