On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 21:19 +0300, Сергей wrote: > > You know, John is not the only person on this list who acts first and > discusses later. And I think we ALL should be more collaborative.
Owl was created way in the past as a trial to see if cchost could offer us the same functions that are enjoyed by the Debian team and their cchost deployment. Because it's php based(1) and because of various technical challenges(2), it could never be an official site. When discussing this issue at UDS with the majority of Art team members and Canonical design people it was apparent that it wasn't suitable; if it was useful for a stop gap it could be used for this cycle while we worked out our tools. It is not just a lack of leadership that hurts this team, but a complete lack of technical tools with which to base a team on. It's quite clear that flickr, like deviantArt, is not suitable as a base of operations for all we need to do and constantly sorting between the ubuntu wiki and these external image caches isn't effective. And I think it's the rejection of flickr technologically is what has Baer behaving so horrendously. But even that, with humility, or sense of friendship could have been worked on and we could have gotten a team leadership together which included him. That isn't happening now. Best Regards, Martin Owens (1) Canonical doesn't allow php websites on their servers, too insecure. (2) We don't have any php developers and the site's kindly donated machine moved from 8.04 to 10.04 and php4 to php5. That crippled the whole functionality of it and it was abandoned. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art