Carey & Michael, I will reply to both of you.
As per wiki, there is NO such thing as a 'State based LoCo', there is a 'State Community Council' if there is sufficient 'Local LoCo' representatives to form one. A 'State representative' is then appointed/elected to the ACC. The role of the ACC is that of 'Support & Consultation', individuals from regions can 'consult' with members on the ACC on how to set-up a 'Local LoCo'. When they have sufficient numbers to form their own 'Loco' they can have a seat on the ACC. Individuals can still contribute though 'general meetings' and make submissions to the ACC. Andrew. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Cary Bielenberg <[email protected]>wrote: > Michael, > Your question about regional areas is a curly one, In Qld we have a > few regional areas Toowoomba, Rockhampton & Townsville that might have > enough users to setup a LoCo, I guess we should focus on state based loCo's > in the 1st instance so as not to disadvantage remote users. > > my 2c > > Cary > > Michael <[email protected]> wrote .. > > Hi Andrew, and everyone else who wishes to take part in this > > discussion. > > > > I see you have put alot of thought into this and I applaud your > > initiative in bringing this matter to the forefront again. > > > > I don't have many comments to make at this time but the ones I do have > > to make will probably ruffle a few feathers, if they do my apology is > > thus tendered in advance. > > > > I personally like the idea of an ACC although the smaller Councils may > > be a bit difficult to setup initially. There needs to be a > > consideration of minimum numbers required for a smaller council and > > this is because places like Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane will have > > the opportunity to create a LoCo each simply because they have the > > numbers. Where does this place people like myself who live in a rural > > centre? Apart from on person who I personally know but haven't seen > > for about 6 years there is no other Ubuntu users on the Ubuntu-AU > > membership list in my region let alone in my town. So will we have a > > Sydney LoCo and a "Rest of NSW" LoCo? or will we just have a NSW LoCo? > > > > I truly believe this LoCo has no transparency. There was a comment > > made during the meeting about having an election. The comment was > > basically that elections are a popularity contest and do not really > > mean the person who gets elected is the best for the job. While this > > is true to a certain extent a transparent election process is much > > better than the current "meritocratic" process. Why is this? Well 1 > > person currently says who can do what, now unfortunately this is > > getting into the realms of micro-management simply because a very > > tight leash is being held on this small community. If this community > > is going to expand people are going to have to be allowed to do things > > without gaining the approval of an "autocratic ruler". I know with the > > current system I will never get anywhere with this community, even > > though I would like to, simply because I have a fundamental difference > > of opinion to others and because of this I don't have any chance of > > being seen as having a "level head". The current situation therefor > > can be seen as being as bad, if not worse, than a transparent election > > process simply because those who want to be able to do things have to > > be "popular" with a certain self appointed group. > > > > I may have more to say later but I think it would be best if I stopped > > where I have and see what others have to say. > > > > Cheers. > > Michael (k3lt01) > > > > -- > > ubuntu-au mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > >
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