I doubt canonical will let a loco as Ubuntu-be manage this.. Ubuntu-fr is way bigger and has a decent structure as well. Nevertheless we could ask for that, it would make some things cheaper to distribute etc..
grts Wouter > Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:13:21 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded > > We could offer them for a symbolic price (eg € 2), this will imho > prevent people from just grabbing one and putting it in a drawer never > to come out again, as they paid for it. On the other hand they don't > have the feeling it has cost them an arm and a leg. > > On a side note: when becoming a vzw, can't we talk to Canonical to let > Ubuntu-be offer an Ubuntu store on European main continent? If we > distribute resources and stock, this should be feasible without huge > investments. Just an idea. > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Steven Leeman <[email protected]> wrote: > > I wouldn't offer them for free imho? > > unless you can find such a sponsor? > > Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-) > > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking > >> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Some more advantages: > >> It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest > >> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity becomes > >> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version. > >> > >> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be > >> quicker too. > >> > >> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the > >> CD. We would have to charge money. > >> > >> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead > >> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help. > >> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the > >> usage of my bvba. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Jan. > >> > >> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Steven > >>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I > >>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW. > >>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea > >>> on: > >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011 > >>> I'll also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting > >>> (26/05/2011). Feel free to discus it there as well. > >>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I > >>> can think of right now (together with the benefits steven described): > >>> - More durable than a CD > >>> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it) > >>> - Can be updated > >>> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you like) > >>> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising > >>> for us. (Free Publicity) > >>> - Also works for Netbook owners > >>> - Really awesome goodie. > >>> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once > >>> we finally create it..) > >>> grts > >>> > >>> Wouter > >>> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below. > >>> ________________________________ > >>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 [email protected] wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if > >>> I could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France. > >>> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB > >>> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who > >>> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained > >>> another Ubuntero. > >>> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks... > >>> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem... > >>> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick... > >>> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874 > >>> 4gbyte usb stick > >>> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport > >>> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me > >>> following prices: > >>> model "Usb Incentive" > >>> : > >>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html > >>> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them > >>> Price/piece: €7,66 > >>> Logo Print: €0,10 > >>> Transport (China): €20,- > >>> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW) > >>> 1 GB 2.0 -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for > >>> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?) > >>> Price/piece €5,26 > >>> Logo Print: €0,10 > >>> Transport (China): €20,- > >>> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW) > >>> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB > >>> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) including printing of > >>> the > >>> logo in 2 colors. > >>> Printing costs per color are €0,05. > >>> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal > >>> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models? > >>> > >>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html > >>> ... > >>> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your > >>> usb-ports can't handle "wide" carts... > >>> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick. > >>> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say? > >>> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with > >>> a small profit... > >>> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...; > >>> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb ports > >>> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we > >>> aren't > >>> talking about USB hubs) > >>> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except > >>> when you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a "clock"?) > >>> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with something > >>> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick. > >>> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion? > >>> -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] Modify > >>> settings or unsubscribe at: > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > >>> -- > >>> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] > >>> > >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Microsoft programs are like Englishmen. 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