Even better would be to have some people start Canonical Belgium ofcourse ;-) (I'd apply for a job there immediately)
But seen the negative faq item, I guess we're stuck with overpriced shipping. Guess we could revive the idea of "samenkoop" I launched a while ago, if we find a decent way to manage this. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:54 AM, wouter Vandenneucker <[email protected]> wrote: > I doubt canonical will let a loco as Ubuntu-be manage this.. > Ubuntu-fr is way bigger and has a decent structure as well. > Nevertheless we could ask for that, it would make some things cheaper to > distribute etc.. > > grts > > > Wouter > >> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:13:21 +0200 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded >> >> We could offer them for a symbolic price (eg € 2), this will imho >> prevent people from just grabbing one and putting it in a drawer never >> to come out again, as they paid for it. On the other hand they don't >> have the feeling it has cost them an arm and a leg. >> >> On a side note: when becoming a vzw, can't we talk to Canonical to let >> Ubuntu-be offer an Ubuntu store on European main continent? If we >> distribute resources and stock, this should be feasible without huge >> investments. Just an idea. >> >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Steven Leeman <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I wouldn't offer them for free imho? >> > unless you can find such a sponsor? >> > Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-) >> > >> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking >> >> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Some more advantages: >> >> It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest >> >> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity >> >> becomes >> >> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version. >> >> >> >> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be >> >> quicker too. >> >> >> >> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike >> >> the >> >> CD. We would have to charge money. >> >> >> >> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead >> >> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help. >> >> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer >> >> the >> >> usage of my bvba. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jan. >> >> >> >> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hey Steven >> >>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I >> >>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW. >> >>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the >> >>> idea >> >>> >> >>> on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011 >> >>> I'll also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting >> >>> (26/05/2011). Feel free to discus it there as well. >> >>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I >> >>> can think of right now (together with the benefits steven described): >> >>> - More durable than a CD >> >>> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it) >> >>> - Can be updated >> >>> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you >> >>> like) >> >>> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising >> >>> for us. (Free Publicity) >> >>> - Also works for Netbook owners >> >>> - Really awesome goodie. >> >>> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu >> >>> (once >> >>> we finally create it..) >> >>> grts >> >>> >> >>> Wouter >> >>> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below. >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me >> >>> if >> >>> I could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France. >> >>> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a >> >>> 1GB >> >>> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who >> >>> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... >> >>> Gained >> >>> another Ubuntero. >> >>> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks... >> >>> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem... >> >>> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick... >> >>> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874 >> >>> 4gbyte usb stick >> >>> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport >> >>> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me >> >>> following prices: >> >>> model "Usb Incentive" >> >>> >> >>> : http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html >> >>> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them >> >>> Price/piece: €7,66 >> >>> Logo Print: €0,10 >> >>> Transport (China): €20,- >> >>> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW) >> >>> 1 GB 2.0 -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for >> >>> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?) >> >>> Price/piece €5,26 >> >>> Logo Print: €0,10 >> >>> Transport (China): €20,- >> >>> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW) >> >>> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 >> >>> USB >> >>> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) including printing >> >>> of the >> >>> logo in 2 colors. >> >>> Printing costs per color are €0,05. >> >>> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal >> >>> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html ... >> >>> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your >> >>> usb-ports can't handle "wide" carts... >> >>> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick. >> >>> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say? >> >>> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them >> >>> with >> >>> a small profit... >> >>> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...; >> >>> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb >> >>> ports >> >>> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we >> >>> aren't >> >>> talking about USB hubs) >> >>> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except >> >>> when you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a >> >>> "clock"?) >> >>> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with >> >>> something >> >>> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick. >> >>> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion? >> >>> -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] Modify >> >>> settings or unsubscribe at: >> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be >> >>> -- >> >>> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] >> >>> >> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Microsoft programs are like Englishmen. 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