sorry about that the 8.o4.1  i had downloaded from the net installed it no 
problem on the top showed me new downloads available so i took the package and 
downloaded it was a few but when i tried to start it i got a second menue with 
5-6 options and tried them all but it would not start couldn't find a lot of 
files i am sorry i can't give you the exact message, As i have xp pro and vista 
on my pc i didn't want to try it again grub did not work either, i restarted my 
other systems are ok but no chance to get back in Ubuntu i found it a super 
idea and very simple to understand and all worked ok i have installed it again 
fresh, but the updates i think i will leave alone at the moment, i will try it 
on another hard drive, but thanks for the answer and so quick it will be a 
system for everybody to use and easy to understand if i get the same problem i 
will write a bit more information on it or if you think i shoud use a diferent 
version ? please tell me.
Thank you.
Fred

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