thanks for being patient!
i ran ( uname -r ) i was runing 2.6.31-20-generic !? (possibly after running 
aptitude lol ) 
i rebooted and ran  2.6.31-19-generic added the ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa to the 
software sources . 
apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.31-19-generic
tested it no sound from sub 
rebooted  2.6.31-19-generic
ran alsamixer made sure no mutes and volumes up . 
no joy tho! 
any thoughts?

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acer 7720g laptop 3 spkr's 3rd being sub woofer not working 
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