Daniel, thank you for your comment.  But I don't see how can you portray
Ahmed's behaviour as professional.

The people reporting bugs are volunteers, too.  And Ahmed has frequently
sucked up their time in this ticket and others by requesting tests and
retests with newly churned out packages when there was no reasonable
expectation that the new packages would address the issue.  Quite often
these new packages had basic flaws and would not even install properly,
wasting even more time to correct these problems.

Something is very wrong if criticizing a maintainer of a package for not
upholding certain standards after being begged to do so repeatedly gets
one into the "please control your temper" camp.  If there were personal
attacks he ignored those alright, but he equally ignored many reasonable
requests to not waste the time of the people who feed him important
information about what works and what doesn't.

Is it too much to ask that a dev actually *asks* for feedback?  Is it
too much to ask that an announcement to "test after LTS release" not be
ignored just merely three or four days after the release happened?  I
can go on and on.  After about at least ten rounds (some in private
chats), I'm just not prepared to jump every time that Ahmed reports
success.  So far, it always turned out he cut some corners and the issue
was really unchanged.  Sorry, but my enthusiasm to test just because
Ahmed reports WFM for the nth time is pretty close to 0 by now.  And
just as seasoned_geek, I don't have immediate access to the machine in
question, it's about 5.000 miles away now.  I do still want to see this
eventually fixed.  But I want to see the problem fixed, not just the
ticket closed.

Daniel, you may be inclined to not see Ahmed at fault since he is the
maintainer of the package (BTW, I co-maintain it with him, so as the one
to report this he REALLY should have asked me if this is fixed).  You
see the effort he puts into this (and I thank him for it!).  But you
obviously fail to see the effort that others are putting in as well, me
included.  I can tell you, it's been a lot and I don't even use this
machine anymore.  But I *am* frustrated if time is needlessly squandered
and that includes closing tickets for no other reason than "works for
me" which IIRC it always did for Ahmed when he had access to a device
and thus in this case is not a valid reason to close.  Especially when
it's not the first that the ticket was closed in error.

Daniel, I have high respect for you, but I can't see how you are being
objective here.

-- 
no more /dev/ttySL0 device node
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/375148
You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

-- 
ubuntu-bugs mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

Reply via email to