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On 2011-04-20T23:43:47+00:00 Marqeaux wrote:

The summary says it all: The toolbars in LibreOffice Base 3.3.2 don't
show up in the first place when you open a new form, or modify an
existing form in design view in the Base component of LibreOffice. The
same thing happens when you make or modify a report in Base.

When I try to add a toolbar, it immediately disappears when I change the
size of the window, or when I try to add a second toolbar.

That's all I can say about this slight problem. I hope you can reproduce
it. I am not very good at this, but I wanted to let you know about this
minor bug.

Kind regards,
Marco.

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libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/31

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On 2011-04-22T17:21:55+00:00 Nv4y-robert wrote:

Created attachment 45959
Open form - no navigation-bar. Edit form - not possible.

Same problem with LibreOffice in openSuSE: Editing of forms is not possible. 
Only the first time with the assistant base shows the toolbars.
Another problem - could be the same: Navigation-bar is not shown.

Robert

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/35

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On 2011-04-22T17:25:44+00:00 Nv4y-robert wrote:

I have changed the platform to "All" and the importance to "high" and
"major", because base isn't usable for editing new databases.

Robert

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/36

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On 2011-04-22T18:59:01+00:00 Nv4y-robert wrote:

Excuse me. I have tested it with the version of OpenSuSE. The original
version of LibreOffice works well. Forms could be edited, toolbars
appear and didn't disappear.

I have changed all values back (sse comment 2)

Robert

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/37

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On 2011-05-16T17:58:53+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Adding lp#709778 with four dupes and lots of additional info. This is indeed a 
serious issue, however not reproducible on all machines/setups. It is _not_ an 
Ubuntu only bug, see:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/27
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/32

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
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On 2011-05-16T18:17:55+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

*** Bug 33032 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/57

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On 2011-05-16T18:19:46+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Possibly related:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36620
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36684

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/58

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On 2011-05-17T13:42:19+00:00 Herbert-schneider wrote:

The solution of this bug is very important for me because I want to
switch over from Microsoft Windows to Ubuntu. I'm working with databases
and LibreOffice frontends. At the moment I can't work with the Linux
version of LibreOffice.

The windows version of LibreOffice doesn't have this problem.

Regards
Herbert

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libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/60

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On 2011-05-17T15:34:06+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Confirmed on current master without any vendor patching.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/61

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On 2011-05-17T18:22:11+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Confirmed on current 3.4 release branch without any vendor patching.
Given that this was reported _not_ to happen on the 3.3.2 release
without vendor patching, this is a regression.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/62

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On 2011-05-17T18:34:53+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

@Noel: Assigning to you for further info.
As the bug was not observed in libreoffice 3.3.2 upstream builds, but was 
observed in OpenSUSE and Ubuntu vendor builds and is being observed in the 
current 3.4, this is most likely one of the integrated patches from 
libreoffice/build. Any hints on likely candidates for triage?

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/63

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On 2011-05-17T20:39:24+00:00 Gruber-6 wrote:

(In reply to comment #9)
> Confirmed on current 3.4 release branch without any vendor patching. Given 
> that
> this was reported _not_ to happen on the 3.3.2 release without vendor 
> patching,
> this is a regression.

It is very painful indeed...
I'm joining this bugzilla, because I reported this bug to Novells Bugzilla für 
LibreOffice (#686354), but nothing happened yet.

Maybe my observations (using opensuse 11.x) will help you to find the
bug:

I first encountered this fault last autumn in the 3.3rc-Versions of OpenOffice; 
later in the 3.3rc of  LibreOffice and all final Versions since then.
Note that I always got Open/LibreOffice from the opensuse-buildservice.

All corresponding native packages of Open/LibreOffices didn't show this effect, 
as you mentioned.
So I assumed, it was a opensuse/Novell thing.

For some weeks I noticed  several  reports of this issue in usenet by
users with brand-new e.g. ubuntu-linux, so this seems to be not
opensuse-only.

It is slightly horrifying news, that this came into the pure LibreOffice
code, because this will make work with databases completely impossible!

(Currently I'm using opensuse-builds, because they have a better KDE-
Integration. For databases only I have native version installed
additionally.)

Besides this, there is another problem with *existing* forms: control
dialogs of form elements do not appear called by context menu. So after
solving this bug, that would be the next problem.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/65

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On 2011-05-19T16:40:44+00:00 Michael Meeks wrote:

Bjoern would greatly appreciate some hints on which ooo-build patches
might have caused this (Noel - any ideas ?).

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/66

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On 2011-05-24T11:37:27+00:00 Nopower wrote:

(In reply to comment #12)
> Bjoern would greatly appreciate some hints on which ooo-build patches might
> have caused this (Noel - any ideas ?).

as mentioned on irc...

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689375 looks like a likely
candidate, Still, I cannot understand how this would be reproducible on
3.4 ( without distro patches ) so... still not clear we are dealing with
the same thing ( looks like it though )

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/67

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On 2011-05-24T12:27:31+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

This is how I reproduced the the issue with the last time:

build smoketest
cd solver/340/unxlngx6.pro/installation/
./opt/program/soffice
- select database in startcenter
- create new database, click finish
- confirm filename
- Use Wizard to create table -> AssetID -> ">>" -> Finish
- Forms -> Create Form in Design View
-> no toolbars?

However I now have toolbars but on 2011-05-17 I had not. Instead I had:
 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/63089243/screenshot3.png
(not my screenie, but I saw the same)

So this is a Heisenbug or accidently fixed. On the launchpad bug you see
people observing the bug on one machine, but not on a different one. I
tested on the same machine. My money is on this being a Heisenbug.

I wish I was already logging repostates of my builds last week. I will
keep an eye on this one from now on.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/68

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On 2011-05-24T15:35:08+00:00 Nopower wrote:

(In reply to comment #14)
> However I now have toolbars but on 2011-05-17 I had not. Instead I had:
>  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/63089243/screenshot3.png
the screenshot is exactly what I saw with 
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689375 
> (not my screenie, but I saw the same)
> 
> So this is a Heisenbug or accidently fixed. On the launchpad bug you see 
> people
> observing the bug on one machine, but not on a different one. I tested on the
> same machine. My money is on this being a Heisenbug.
it seems to be too coincidental to see this same effect[*], are you positive 
that you saw this on 3.4 branch ? Anyway, keep an eye out

[*] ALL toolbars gone

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On 2011-05-28T21:22:42+00:00 Ferry Toth wrote:

The above discussion sounds like the problem is difficult to reproduce.

In fact it is simple and quick and exactly as Björns comment 14.

On Ubuntu Natty (i32 and amd64)
LibreOffice 3.3.2 
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5

the result is exactly the same:

When opening a form to enter data there are no navigation bars, no tool
bars and no status bar. You can only add a record by clicking on the
last field and pressing enter. You can manually add the navigation bar,
but it will disappear after close/reopen the form. You can not add the
status bar. And if you try to add the formating toolbar the navigation
bar will disappear.

When editing a form there are no Form Design and Form Control toolbars.
Also you cannot click a control to get to these tools, so you can not
change your form at all, other then drag the control around a bit.

I think more needs to be done then 'keep an eye out'.

I just downloaded 3.3.2 Final (22-03-2011) (the deb version) from the LO
web site, installed on a Maverick VM with OO wiped off.

LO is same build OOO330m19 (Build:202). Guess what, here Data entry and
Forms Editing work fine.

This suggests a packaging problem in Ubuntu.

So then upgraded to LibreOffice 3.4 RC2 (2011-05-27)
LibreOffice 3.4.0 
OOO340m1 (Build:12)

Also NO problems here (with forms).

So it actually does seem to be a packaging problem. But then one then
occurs on multiple distributions - not just Ubuntu.

Now what. None of the user with Natty installed is currently able to do
any useful database work.

We need a fix in Natty and quick too.

Ferry

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libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/70

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On 2011-05-29T01:01:58+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

@Ferry: No, this bug is _not_ easily reproducible. If you look at the
launchpad bug some people have can produce the issue on one machine but
cannot on another with the same version.

Also this is not a "packaging problem in Ubuntu" -- it was most likely
introduced by the go-oo patches that were applied as a de-fact standard
by almost all distributions including SUSE, Debian, Ubuntu for the 3.3
branch. Those are some 500 patches which is why I asked about some hints
which ones could be the problematic ones.

On 3.4 these patches have been included in all versions including those
directly available from the libreoffice website -- they are not patches
anymore. As this could not be reproduced in the recent 3.4.0 rcs, we
however still need to keep an eye out for it to pop up again as it might
just be a Heisenbug that is hiding.

Also adding Debian bug 617319 for reference: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-
bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617319

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On 2011-05-29T10:20:11+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Adding Novell bug url.

In the Novell bug, optional-outplace-ole.diff is assumed to be the root
cause of the problem. However, I just did a Ubuntu/Debian build without
that patch, and the problem persists.

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libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/72

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On 2011-05-29T12:09:20+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

additionally removed the patchsets Layout, VBABits, VBAObjects,
LayoutDialogs, VBAUntested, but the bug persists.

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libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/73

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On 2011-05-29T15:01:17+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

ignore the last two comments: I had an old soffice.bin instance running.
it is indeed optional-outplace-ole.diff causing the trouble.

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libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/74

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On 2011-05-29T16:03:39+00:00 Ferry Toth wrote:

@Björn,

I didn't mean to say that the problem would be easy to debug. Or solely
a Ubuntu problem, as I am well aware that it happens at least on Debian
too.

I am glad you located the offending patch. Does it explain why "some
people can produce the issue on one machine but cannot on another with
the same version"?

If I could have found a machine that didn't have the problem I wouldn't
have been that desperate. I tried new installs, older upgrades, i32 and
amd64, VM. All the same.

I think some confuse the form showing 'read only' with 'cannot enter
data in the form'.

Will the 'rebuild' show up in the PPA? I can't wait to try it.

Ferry

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On 2011-05-29T19:28:42+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

closing as fixed as it is not reproducible in the current unpatched 3.3
and 3.4 branches.

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libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/76

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On 2011-05-29T21:40:24+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

@Ferry: FYI, the fixed version is currently building in the ppa.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/79

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On 2011-05-31T21:19:43+00:00 Gruber-6 wrote:

Many thanks for your succeeding efforts, Björn...

I really hope, that this bug will not rise again in the downstream
versions by ubuntu or in my case opensuse.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/83

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On 2011-07-07T22:28:46+00:00 Keith Clark wrote:

How is this fixed?  I have Libre Office 3.3.2 installed on my Ubuntu
11.04 machine and this is still happening to me.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/88

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On 2011-07-08T01:58:04+00:00 NoOp wrote:

Works for me in (linux) 3.3.3 & 3.4.1.

Still does not work in Ubuntu 3.3.2, so it appears to be a distro
packaging/update/upgrade issue.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/91

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On 2011-07-11T12:32:51+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Never been an issue with the plain native build. Fixed in 3.3.3 release
which will be SRUed for Natty and all further releases on Ubuntu and
Debian.

Again: Please dont reopen, not an upstream issue, as not in the master
repo.

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libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/94

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On 2011-12-24T12:27:29+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

closing

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-
libreoffice/+bug/709778/comments/110


** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #36620
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36620

** Bug watch added: Novell/SUSE Bugzilla #689375
   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689375

** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #617319
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617319

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