On 19-10-12 13:50, Bernd Kreuss wrote:
> I did not intend to insult anybody or otherwise hurt his feelings, so
> if I overreacted too much then please accept my apologies.

Good. Nice to hear.

> Empfohlene Pakete:

Does this translate to recommended or to suggested?

> Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert: fp-compiler 
> fp-compiler-2.4.4 fp-units-rtl-2.4.4 lazarus lazarus-0.9.30.2 
> lazarus-doc-0.9.30.2 lazarus-ide-0.9.30.2 lazarus-ide-gtk2-0.9.30.2 
> lazarus-src-0.9.30.2

The "empfohlene" are not listed above, why not?

> it doesn't even start now, it will hang in some kind of infinite
> loop eating 100% CPU after telling me that there is no fpc source
> code. The IDE can not function without *all* source code being
> installed, it needs to be a dependency, not a suggestion.

Interesting. fpc-source is a recommends, not a suggests. Are you telling
here that you don't install recommended packages by default? I agree
with you that the installation should not fail, but if you are NOT
installing recommends, you should know what you are doing. However. I
tend to believe you and fpc-source should be a depends.

> regarding lcl-units: lazarus does not depend on lcl-units but it 
> needs it in order for lazarus to work.

No, but it is in the recommends. Maybe that was wrong.

> Also what are the .lpk files doing in the lcl-units?

Now this is a very legitimate question. Let's ask the maintainer. I will
forward this bug in a few moments. This e-mail was a lot more to the
point. Reporting bugs to Debian is writing a simple e-mail to
[email protected] with some meta-data in the beginning. I will do
it now, but you can find the how-to here:
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control

> A much better and much simpler way to split it into multiple packages
> (if necessary at all) would be:
> * a package containing *all* source and the tools to compile from
> command line (lazbuild)

I am indeed only using lazbuild to build my packages, so I like this
being split off from the IDE's.

> sudo apt-get install lazarus should install a *complete* IDE with 
> everything reachable through its UI, every single button I could 
> press and every keystroke actually working.

And I believe it DOES if you just install recommends, as is the default.
Again, things should not fail, but not everything needs to work. That is
exactly the point of recommends:
"""
This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together
with this one in all but unusual installations.
"""
But you are of course free to disagree with the choices of the
maintainer, and you can discuss them.

Paul

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