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** Description changed: I seem to have found a solution to a severe thrashing/swapping/freezing problem that I've been having for months now. I guess the real question is - should I turn it into a bug report and what would be useful data to include if so. This is a quad core AMD Phaeom system with 4G of ram, dual monitors and a single 1TB WD caviar black HD. It had been behaving normally until something broke sometime late in the 11.x release cycle and continues in the current 12.04 LTS. The symptoms are running a moderate load of apps (firefox with ~8 tabs, a terminal or 2, and aisleriot solitaire for example) and experiencing system freezes where the entire UI becomes totally unresponsive for 20 seconds - 5 minutes with solid disk activity. Trying to figure out what was going on via iotop and top show jbd2 and kswapd accounting for the largest load, but since it freezes iotop like everything else I can't tell what's going during the worst storms. Googling around shows a fair number of other people with similar problems, most of them with multi core amd64 systems. The other day I spotted this report on opensuse that looked similar but not identical: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-03/msg00657.html I booted with the grub parameter transparent_hugepage=never yesterday and the problem went and away and hasn't come back. I've streesed the system by running a bunch of flash/java tabs in firefox, running a large java based stock app (ThinkorSwim) in another workspace and playing a 1080p 60fps movie in a third workspace. This certainly causes swapping, but not freezing or stumbling. It actually did a bit of swapping a minute ago while I was typing and it managed to make Pandora radio stumble for a moment - but that's orders of magnitude better than it has been. I think there may be a fundamental problem with how transparent hugepages are handled with some AMD CPUs. I think this problem started when this feature was implemented and enabled by default. The manpage for madvise() says this was added in 2.6.38, but I don't know if it was enabled by default at that point. Hre's a partial list of things that haven't worked well in the past: Playing with the swappiness value: setting swappiness to very low values makes the problem take longer to surface, but (unsurprisinglly) makes it even worse once it does. swapoff-a ; swapon-a: this makes it go away for a while. A potentially interesting thing is that as soon as I can get the system to act on the swapoff -a the system becomes responsive again. It pegs once CPU core at 100% and the HD grinds like crazy but it stops freezing right away. Moving swap from the HD to a USB thumb drive: Obviously I didn't expect that to be faster but wanted to see if segregating swap to a different device on a different bus would make it swap more smoothly - it didn't. Playing with nice and ionice priorities for jdb2, kswapd. The fact that running these processes at a lower priority than anything else on the system makes no difference leads me to think they were just symptoms and not at the root of the problem. I think this may be a tip of the iceberg and there may be a lot of other having this problem. Looking around I see a fair number of reports, most of them unsolved. Some may have been fixed by just adding enough RAM that dirty hugepages just don't collect. Some may have been fixed by chaanging filesystems - ext4 seems like something a lot of people with this problem have in common. Workaround: hold down the spacebar during boot in order to bring up the grub menu, edit the command line and add transparent_hugepage=never If this fixes the problem you can make it permanent by editing /etc/default/grub and adding the ransparent_hugepage=never to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line and then running update-grub Problems with this workaround: 1) transparent hugepages should work. This may cause a small performance hit in some situations and a larger hit in others. 2) If you do this you will probably never know when or if it actually gets fixed. PS: Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany is looking for bugzilla reports on this too. + --- + ApportVersion: 2.19.1-0ubuntu5 + Architecture: amd64 + AudioDevicesInUse: + USER PID ACCESS COMMAND + /dev/snd/controlC0: garyrich 2339 F.... pulseaudio + /dev/snd/controlC1: garyrich 2339 F.... pulseaudio + CurrentDesktop: Unity + DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.10 + EcryptfsInUse: Yes + HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=5b22d42d-33c8-435c-bea0-c1fbba7f88bf + InstallationDate: Installed on 2010-01-22 (2149 days ago) + InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala" - Release amd64 (20091027) + IwConfig: + eth0 no wireless extensions. + + lo no wireless extensions. + MachineType: System manufacturer System Product Name + Package: linux (not installed) + ProcFB: 0 radeondrmfb + ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-19-generic root=UUID=ab3cda85-2125-40b3-a1d0-f27222cc9ff6 ro quiet splash elevator=cfq vt.handoff=7 + ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.2.0-19.23-generic 4.2.6 + RelatedPackageVersions: + linux-restricted-modules-4.2.0-19-generic N/A + linux-backports-modules-4.2.0-19-generic N/A + linux-firmware 1.149.3 + RfKill: + + Tags: wily + Uname: Linux 4.2.0-19-generic x86_64 + UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) + UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom debian-tor dialout dip fax fuse games lpadmin messagebus netdev plugdev sambashare ssh staff syslog tape users video + _MarkForUpload: True + dmi.bios.date: 04/13/2011 + dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc. + dmi.bios.version: 3503 + dmi.board.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M. + dmi.board.name: M4A78T-E + dmi.board.vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC. + dmi.board.version: Rev 1.xx + dmi.chassis.asset.tag: Asset-1234567890 + dmi.chassis.type: 3 + dmi.chassis.vendor: Chassis Manufacture + dmi.chassis.version: Chassis Version + dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvr3503:bd04/13/2011:svnSystemmanufacturer:pnSystemProductName:pvrSystemVersion:rvnASUSTeKComputerINC.:rnM4A78T-E:rvrRev1.xx:cvnChassisManufacture:ct3:cvrChassisVersion: + dmi.product.name: System Product Name + dmi.product.version: System Version + dmi.sys.vendor: System manufacturer ** Attachment added: "AlsaInfo.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013807/+attachment/4533433/+files/AlsaInfo.txt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013807 Title: transparent hugepages and thrashing on amd64 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1013807/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
