** Also affects: php-laravel-framework (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Description changed:
Please drop the Laravel eco-system from impish. This includes the
following binary packages:
- php-illuminate-auth - Illuminate Auth library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-broadcasting - Illuminate Broadcasting library component
for PHP
- php-illuminate-bus - Illuminate Bus library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-cache - Illuminate Cache library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-config - Illuminate Config library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-console - Illuminate Console library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-container - Illuminate Container library component for
PHP
- php-illuminate-contracts - Illuminate Contracts library component for
PHP
- php-illuminate-cookie - Illuminate Cookie library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-database - Illuminate Database library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-encryption - Illuminate Encryption library component for
PHP
- php-illuminate-events - Illuminate Events library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-filesystem - Illuminate Filesystem library component for
PHP
- php-illuminate-hashing - Illuminate Hashing library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-http - Illuminate Http library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-log - Illuminate Log library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-mail - Illuminate Mail library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-notifications - Illuminate Notifications library
component for PHP
- php-illuminate-pagination - Illuminate Pagination library component for
PHP
- php-illuminate-pipeline - Illuminate Pipeline library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-queue - Illuminate Queue library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-redis - Illuminate Redis library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-routing - Illuminate Routing library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-session - Illuminate Session library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-support - Illuminate Support library component for PHP
- php-illuminate-translation - Illuminate Translation library component
for PHP
- php-illuminate-validation - Illuminate Validation library component for
PHP
- php-illuminate-view - Illuminate View library component for PHP
- php-laravel-framework - web application framework for PHP
- php-laravel-lumen-framework - micro-framework for building web
applications in PHP
- movim
-
+ php-illuminate-auth
+ php-illuminate-broadcasting
+ php-illuminate-bus
+ php-illuminate-cache
+ php-illuminate-config
+ php-illuminate-console
+ php-illuminate-container
+ php-illuminate-contracts
+ php-illuminate-cookie
+ php-illuminate-database
+ php-illuminate-encryption
+ php-illuminate-events
+ php-illuminate-filesystem
+ php-illuminate-hashing
+ php-illuminate-http
+ php-illuminate-log
+ php-illuminate-mail
+ php-illuminate-notifications
+ php-illuminate-pagination
+ php-illuminate-pipeline
+ php-illuminate-queue
+ php-illuminate-redis
+ php-illuminate-routing
+ php-illuminate-session
+ php-illuminate-support
+ php-illuminate-translation
+ php-illuminate-validation
+ php-illuminate-view
+ php-laravel-framework
+ php-laravel-lumen-framework
+ movim
[Discussion]
- Movim is a distributed social network built on XMPP.
+ Movim is a distributed social network built on XMPP.
Laravel is a PHP-based, commercially-supported web framework that builds
atop the Symfony web framework, providing a number of "1st-party"
plugins for billing, auth, browser testing, etc.
Laravel 6.20 was introduced in Debian ubuntu in Dec 2020, and auto-
sync'd into Ubuntu hirsute at that time. (Current upstream is releasing
Laravel 8.45, however 6.x is their LTS series, with security support
through Sep. 2022.)
For Ubuntu impish we are introducing PHP 8.0, and updating a number of
PHP ecosystem pieces to their PHP 8 versions. Technically, Laravel 6.20
indicates support for PHP 8.0 itself
(https://github.com/laravel/framework/commit/897a47136c2da2fdc7e19cee89c2f3a514192dee),
however Laravel 6.20 appears to not be compatible with some of the other
ecosystem pieces being introduced, and looks like significant work will
be needed to get it transitioned.
Upstream recommends to their new users to install Laravel via their
Docker container [https://laravel.com/docs/8.x/installation].
Experienced users are directed to use PHP's package manager, 'composer',
to install Laravel's PHP components from the web. 3rd party install
guides found via google also walk users through using composer to
install laravel, rather than install via apt. In general it appears
users are relying on an Ubuntu LTS for the webserver and the PHP
runtime, but prefer latest Laravel in order to get up-to-date security
fixes and features.
Debian's PopCon gives the php-laravel-framework and related components a
0.00% rating, with only 7 people having installed it (of which only 2
people used it recently). We do not have any data suggesting Ubuntu's
install base is significantly different from Debian's.
Given the above, it seems most helpful for end users to focus efforts on
stabilizing the base PHP 8.0 components, and drop Laravel from the
archive for Impish. Since Laravel was only just introduced in hirsute,
and since the popcon numbers suggest few are using it yet, it's unlikely
this change will have a notable impact to users.
** Description changed:
Please drop the Laravel eco-system from impish. This includes the
following binary packages:
php-illuminate-auth
php-illuminate-broadcasting
php-illuminate-bus
php-illuminate-cache
php-illuminate-config
php-illuminate-console
php-illuminate-container
php-illuminate-contracts
php-illuminate-cookie
php-illuminate-database
php-illuminate-encryption
php-illuminate-events
php-illuminate-filesystem
php-illuminate-hashing
php-illuminate-http
php-illuminate-log
php-illuminate-mail
php-illuminate-notifications
php-illuminate-pagination
php-illuminate-pipeline
php-illuminate-queue
php-illuminate-redis
php-illuminate-routing
php-illuminate-session
php-illuminate-support
php-illuminate-translation
php-illuminate-validation
php-illuminate-view
php-laravel-framework
php-laravel-lumen-framework
movim
[Discussion]
- Movim is a distributed social network built on XMPP.
+ Movim is a distributed social network built on XMPP and Illuminate.
+
+ Illuminate is the namespace used by the Laravel project for its
+ components.
Laravel is a PHP-based, commercially-supported web framework that builds
atop the Symfony web framework, providing a number of "1st-party"
plugins for billing, auth, browser testing, etc.
Laravel 6.20 was introduced in Debian ubuntu in Dec 2020, and auto-
sync'd into Ubuntu hirsute at that time. (Current upstream is releasing
Laravel 8.45, however 6.x is their LTS series, with security support
through Sep. 2022.)
For Ubuntu impish we are introducing PHP 8.0, and updating a number of
PHP ecosystem pieces to their PHP 8 versions. Technically, Laravel 6.20
indicates support for PHP 8.0 itself
(https://github.com/laravel/framework/commit/897a47136c2da2fdc7e19cee89c2f3a514192dee),
however Laravel 6.20 appears to not be compatible with some of the other
ecosystem pieces being introduced, and looks like significant work will
be needed to get it transitioned.
Upstream recommends to their new users to install Laravel via their
Docker container [https://laravel.com/docs/8.x/installation].
Experienced users are directed to use PHP's package manager, 'composer',
to install Laravel's PHP components from the web. 3rd party install
guides found via google also walk users through using composer to
install laravel, rather than install via apt. In general it appears
users are relying on an Ubuntu LTS for the webserver and the PHP
runtime, but prefer latest Laravel in order to get up-to-date security
fixes and features.
Debian's PopCon gives the php-laravel-framework and related components a
0.00% rating, with only 7 people having installed it (of which only 2
people used it recently). We do not have any data suggesting Ubuntu's
install base is significantly different from Debian's.
Given the above, it seems most helpful for end users to focus efforts on
stabilizing the base PHP 8.0 components, and drop Laravel from the
archive for Impish. Since Laravel was only just introduced in hirsute,
and since the popcon numbers suggest few are using it yet, it's unlikely
this change will have a notable impact to users.
** Description changed:
Please drop the Laravel eco-system from impish. This includes the
following binary packages:
php-illuminate-auth
php-illuminate-broadcasting
php-illuminate-bus
php-illuminate-cache
php-illuminate-config
php-illuminate-console
php-illuminate-container
php-illuminate-contracts
php-illuminate-cookie
php-illuminate-database
php-illuminate-encryption
php-illuminate-events
php-illuminate-filesystem
php-illuminate-hashing
php-illuminate-http
php-illuminate-log
php-illuminate-mail
php-illuminate-notifications
php-illuminate-pagination
php-illuminate-pipeline
php-illuminate-queue
php-illuminate-redis
php-illuminate-routing
php-illuminate-session
php-illuminate-support
php-illuminate-translation
php-illuminate-validation
php-illuminate-view
php-laravel-framework
php-laravel-lumen-framework
movim
+
+ Currently, tests fail with PHP 8.0, Symfony 5, and newer PSR; this
+ blocks our transition for symfony, and thus PHP 8.0. No updates to this
+ ecosystem are currently available from Debian.
[Discussion]
Movim is a distributed social network built on XMPP and Illuminate.
Illuminate is the namespace used by the Laravel project for its
components.
Laravel is a PHP-based, commercially-supported web framework that builds
atop the Symfony web framework, providing a number of "1st-party"
plugins for billing, auth, browser testing, etc.
Laravel 6.20 was introduced in Debian ubuntu in Dec 2020, and auto-
sync'd into Ubuntu hirsute at that time. (Current upstream is releasing
Laravel 8.45, however 6.x is their LTS series, with security support
through Sep. 2022.)
For Ubuntu impish we are introducing PHP 8.0, and updating a number of
PHP ecosystem pieces to their PHP 8 versions. Technically, Laravel 6.20
indicates support for PHP 8.0 itself
(https://github.com/laravel/framework/commit/897a47136c2da2fdc7e19cee89c2f3a514192dee),
however Laravel 6.20 appears to not be compatible with some of the other
ecosystem pieces being introduced, and looks like significant work will
be needed to get it transitioned.
Upstream recommends to their new users to install Laravel via their
Docker container [https://laravel.com/docs/8.x/installation].
Experienced users are directed to use PHP's package manager, 'composer',
to install Laravel's PHP components from the web. 3rd party install
guides found via google also walk users through using composer to
install laravel, rather than install via apt. In general it appears
users are relying on an Ubuntu LTS for the webserver and the PHP
runtime, but prefer latest Laravel in order to get up-to-date security
fixes and features.
Debian's PopCon gives the php-laravel-framework and related components a
0.00% rating, with only 7 people having installed it (of which only 2
people used it recently). We do not have any data suggesting Ubuntu's
install base is significantly different from Debian's.
Given the above, it seems most helpful for end users to focus efforts on
stabilizing the base PHP 8.0 components, and drop Laravel from the
archive for Impish. Since Laravel was only just introduced in hirsute,
and since the popcon numbers suggest few are using it yet, it's unlikely
this change will have a notable impact to users.
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