Thanks vorlon!
There are two more I missed in my original list, that should also be
removed from the archive, for now:
php-robmorgan-phinx/0.9.2-3build1
php-cboden-ratchet/0.4.2-1build1
These are movim dependencies that nothing else appears to require, that
become uninstallable with the new symfony.
stirling:~/pkg/Php8.0-transition/symfony/symfony-utkarsh$ apt-cache rdepends
--recurse php-robmorgan-phinx
php-robmorgan-phinx
Reverse Depends:
movim
movim
movim
Reverse Depends:
stirling:~/pkg/Php8.0-transition/symfony/symfony-utkarsh$ apt-cache rdepends
--recurse php-cboden-ratchet
php-cboden-ratchet
Reverse Depends:
movim
movim
movim
Reverse Depends:
** Description changed:
Please drop the Laravel eco-system from impish. This includes the
following binary packages:
php-illuminate-auth
php-illuminate-broadcasting
php-illuminate-bus
php-illuminate-cache
php-illuminate-config
php-illuminate-console
php-illuminate-container
php-illuminate-contracts
php-illuminate-cookie
php-illuminate-database
php-illuminate-encryption
php-illuminate-events
php-illuminate-filesystem
php-illuminate-hashing
php-illuminate-http
php-illuminate-log
php-illuminate-mail
php-illuminate-notifications
php-illuminate-pagination
php-illuminate-pipeline
php-illuminate-queue
php-illuminate-redis
php-illuminate-routing
php-illuminate-session
php-illuminate-support
php-illuminate-translation
php-illuminate-validation
php-illuminate-view
php-laravel-framework
php-laravel-lumen-framework
movim
Currently, tests fail with PHP 8.0, Symfony 5, and newer PSR; this
blocks our transition for symfony, and thus PHP 8.0. No updates to this
ecosystem are currently available from Debian.
+
+ Update -- These should also be dropped:
+ php-robmorgan-phinx
+ php-cboden-ratchet
+
+ Only movim depended on these.
[Discussion]
Movim is a distributed social network built on XMPP and Illuminate.
Illuminate is the namespace used by the Laravel project for its
components.
Laravel is a PHP-based, commercially-supported web framework that builds
atop the Symfony web framework, providing a number of "1st-party"
plugins for billing, auth, browser testing, etc.
Laravel 6.20 was introduced in Debian ubuntu in Dec 2020, and auto-
sync'd into Ubuntu hirsute at that time. (Current upstream is releasing
Laravel 8.45, however 6.x is their LTS series, with security support
through Sep. 2022.)
For Ubuntu impish we are introducing PHP 8.0, and updating a number of
PHP ecosystem pieces to their PHP 8 versions. Technically, Laravel 6.20
indicates support for PHP 8.0 itself
(https://github.com/laravel/framework/commit/897a47136c2da2fdc7e19cee89c2f3a514192dee),
however Laravel 6.20 appears to not be compatible with some of the other
ecosystem pieces being introduced, and looks like significant work will
be needed to get it transitioned.
Upstream recommends to their new users to install Laravel via their
Docker container [https://laravel.com/docs/8.x/installation].
Experienced users are directed to use PHP's package manager, 'composer',
to install Laravel's PHP components from the web. 3rd party install
guides found via google also walk users through using composer to
install laravel, rather than install via apt. In general it appears
users are relying on an Ubuntu LTS for the webserver and the PHP
runtime, but prefer latest Laravel in order to get up-to-date security
fixes and features.
Debian's PopCon gives the php-laravel-framework and related components a
0.00% rating, with only 7 people having installed it (of which only 2
people used it recently). We do not have any data suggesting Ubuntu's
install base is significantly different from Debian's.
Given the above, it seems most helpful for end users to focus efforts on
stabilizing the base PHP 8.0 components, and drop Laravel from the
archive for Impish. Since Laravel was only just introduced in hirsute,
and since the popcon numbers suggest few are using it yet, it's unlikely
this change will have a notable impact to users.
** Also affects: php-robmorgan-phinx (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Also affects: ratchetphp (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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