This morning I tried removing xubuntu-core and xubuntu-desktop.  "apt
autoremove" showed nothing to remove.  I ran "update-manager -d" and got
to the window with the summary of changes (number of MB to download,
etc).  That is, I did not see the error that I get when ubuntu-mate-
core, ubuntu-mate-desktop, xubuntu-core, and xubuntu-desktop are all
installed.

** Summary changed:

- held broken packages trying to upgrade from Groovy to Hirsute (Xubuntu, MATE)
+ held broken packages trying to upgrade from Hirsute to Impish (Xubuntu, MATE)

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Title:
  held broken packages trying to upgrade from Hirsute to Impish
  (Xubuntu, MATE)

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