Yes,

thanks Roger. I don't know a lot about UNIX yet, but that could be the
problem indeed for me. I remember that the last time I upgraded to
Intrepid it also failed, and I was down to a partial upgrade again. I
don't know a lot of commands in the terminal yet, so what I usually do
is the following cycle:

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get upgrade
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
$ sudo apt-get install -f
$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
$ sudo update-manager -d
$ sudo reboot

When I think I messed it up too much, I try to do:

$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a

I always kept getting the following message for one package, and when
that was resolved I got the same message for another package:

$ sudo apt-get upgrade

0 newly installed, 0 upgraded, 0 removed, 1 not upgraded
The following package was held back:
"package name"

and also:

$ sudo apt-get update:

failed to fetch package "package-name"

When that happened I did:

$ sudo apt-get source "package-name"
$ sudo apt-get install "package-name"
$ sudo apt-get build-dep "package-name"
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure "package-name"

followed by the above described commands, and kept on trucking.

Finally I ran into a package I could not get either way. So what I did
instead was to run:

$ sudo synaptic

After that I tried fix broken packages and mark all upgrades. After that
I clicked on repositories and changed the server from main server to UK
server and finally to Ireland server (I live in Belfast). After that I
clicked on reload in synaptic and tried fix broken packages and mark all
upgrades again. Now the apply button turned green and I could download
some new packages. After that I repeated my familiar ritual in the
terminal. That is how I finally got a working configuration which is up
to date. Therefore maybe I think you are right, there could be broken
packages.

I will now try to repeat this by installing hardy on virtual box and
upgrade it to Intrepid. I will try to document every step. If any of the
devolopers have an idea, they should ask me about it. First I must go
offline today however, as I need to put in another 2 GB ROM chip. My
Vista Ultimate with Office 2007 Ultimate and Systran is to slow under
Virtual Box 1.6.4. Nowing my own technical prawess, I could be offline
for a long time, hehe.

Thanks again and cheers,

Thomas



----- Original Message ----
From: roger thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:41:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Bug 254238] Re: update manager crashes on upgrade

Hi Thomas ,thanks for info - I think that there are 2 separate problems:
1)Update manager loops when it encounters errors in updates (it should
issue error warning or return to status-quo rather than looping)
2)Why are some 'updates' issued with errors in them ? Possibly one of
the library files is wrong.
Kind regards,Roger
> Hi, I upgrade several times to 8.10 so far with update-manager -d. I
> could not finish the upgrade becuase the display crashed and I had to
> use to soft reboot. After that I got no error report pop up, and when I
> ran update manager again, I could not upgrade completely, but I could do
> a partial upgrade. Mostly Intrepid was rendered to stable and I had to
> start over again. It always crashed when I was doing something CPU or
> ROM intensive, like trying to open DRM protected files with totem or
> something. The last time I upgraded, it also crashed, but I managed to
> get a working version, that still has display freezes from time to time,
> see my last bug report. It could be that this has nothing to do with
> this, in which case I apologize for spamming, but I tought I just give
> it a try. Cheers, Thomas .
>

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