Yeah the naming of "bad" and "ugly" gstreamer plugins is unfortunate. Those names mask the fact that you really do need them to play common media formats.

That PPA does work but I failed to mention it requires Ubuntu 17.10 and that you have followed the quick start instructions:

- Daniel

On 05/08/17 05:33, doug wrote:

On 08/03/2017 09:50 PM, Daniel van Vugt wrote:
Oh, I see, sorry.

gstreamer1.0-vaapi depends on:  libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0
which is not "the bad plugins" package:  gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad
but it is an obviously-related support library still.

I'm working in this area lately so will see how feasible it is to loosen that dependency.
I believe it's 2 .so's used. Any possibility of improving those libs so the can go to the good plugin?
     (- the vaapi ppa build isn't working here  on a Haswell machine.

On 03/08/17 23:06, Bryan Quigley wrote:
After installing va-driver-all on fresh ubuntu 17.10 install (so
ignoring the few packages that brings in)

gstreamer1.0-vaapi does still bring in libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0
libopencv-core3.1 libtbb2 libva-drm1 libva-wayland1 libva-x11-1 (only
5 MB).

This doesn't block us adding it to the restricted sets, but might
complicate getting it in main.  (I wonder if opencv might end up
heading for main eventually anyway.  Definitely useful in
embedded/drones but might also be involved in the future of webcams -
think Intel RealSense)

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Daniel van Vugt
<> wrote:
Doug, I bring good news...

gstreamer1.0-vaapi actually does not depend on the "bad" plugins, or any
other gstreamer plugins.

And yes you are right mpv is much better than totem for performance and
smoothness. I hope to bring totem up to the same standard eventually.

totem/gst-vaapi will work in a Wayland session after we release my fixes in
17.10. You can try an early version here:

- Daniel

On 03/08/17 04:58, doug wrote:

gstreamer1.0-vaapi currently deps on the bad plugins, are you all going to
change that?

For the most part it's worked well over the past couple of years, not
nearly as efficient as vaapi in mpv but still a decent reduction in cpu use.

(- probably 20 -35% of what totem would use without, similar to what vlc
does when vlc happens to work.

Though atm it, (totem/gst-vaapi) doesn't seem to work at all in wayland
session, actually only mpv does sans window deco..


On 08/02/2017 07:30 AM, Will Cooke wrote:

On 2 August 2017 at 02:53, Daniel van Vugt <
<>> wrote:

Although gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad does have important uses such as providing audio codecs and the GL plugin, totem will install it on
     demand, anyway. So yes you should be able to drop it.

     I would like to add a couple to that list though:
      - va-driver-all (should include i965-va-driver)
      - gstreamer1.0-vaapi

Is there value in getting them promoted to main for 18.04? I think the codec licensing is taken care of by the graphics hardware vendor so I think we should be ok there. If Totem will pull them in automatically that's good - but I'd love to be able to go one step further and have them "in the box".

Cheers, Will

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