On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 05:24:17PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Loïc Minier <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2011, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> > Do we have something similar to debian-private in Ubuntu? > >> God forbid :p > > > > Eh; yet it would still be "less private" than the subset of people who > > made the decision, while not being entirely public. > > > > Such a permanent list would have potential for abuse though, and its > > mere existence would cause people to wonder how much is being discussed > > on it.
> To be honest, it's really not that bad of an idea. Some things tend to > "snowball" when they are on public lists, it would almost be nice to > have a list that's not council-only (we do have private lists already, > this would actually move some council talk into the members-only > lists) to talk about issues that might be "hot-button" in the > blag-o-sphere. So what folks here who aren't also Debian developers may not appreciate is that debian-private is a stellar example of how badly communities of a certain radius behave when you give them a private forum in which they may communicate freely and from which they may /not/ redirect discussions to more appropriate public venues. The signal-to-noise ratio on debian-private is approximately 1:100. This is not a phenomenon exclusive to debian-private either. I have some concrete ideas about how to fix debian-private, but I think the best thing for Ubuntu is to not create such a communication medium in the first place. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ [email protected] [email protected]
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