On Thursday, April 14, 2011 01:39:43 PM Ted Gould wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 09:49 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > Unless it's a package developed specifically for Ubuntu, it's really not
> > a bug in the package from an upstream perspective.  Some upstreams will
> > choose to support Ubuntu specific requirements and others won't.  For
> > those that don't, either users will lose out on functionality or we'll
> > have to develop and maintain Ubuntu specific patches.
> > 
> > I doubt it's supportable to deal with Ubuntu patches for all the relevant
> > Universe packages.  We also know there are some important applicaitons
> > that can't/won't support the migration, so it's either live with a
> > legacy notification area or not support these packages.  I suspect that,
> > in the interest of giving the users fully functional applications we'll
> > come down on the side of supporting the notification area for these
> > packages.  It makes sense to me, given that, just to plan on supporting
> > it generally for applications that use it.
> 
> I hope that one day we can get to the point of having UI requirements on
> applications within the Ubuntu process similar to the security
> requirements that exist with an MIR today.
> 
> So, for instance a package couldn't be in the Ubuntu archive:
>       * if it required the system tray
>       * didn't support localization
>       * didn't have basic accessibility support
>       * doesn't provide any user documentation
>       * uses it's own notification system instead of the FD.o one
> 
> I think part of making the overall Ubuntu experience better is
> increasing the quality of all applications we ship, and one way to do
> that is by increasing our own standards.  Of course, we're a ways away
> from this right now, but I think looking in this direction is helpful.
> 
>               --Ted

Broad upstream support for Ubuntu's preferred technologies is a prerequisite 
to this.  I agree it's a good goal, but I think it's premature to be breaking 
UX for packages that don't support Ubuntu's preferences.

Scott K

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