On 10/03/2013 04:06 AM, Tim wrote:
>
> On 03/10/13 17:10, Erick Brunzell wrote:
>> On 10/02/2013 10:27 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     Whether this is a shocking news or not, I guess I have to share
>>>     it here and read your opinion about this :)
>>>
>>>     
>>> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/ubuntu-1404-lts-to-stay-on-gtkgnome-38.html
>>>
>>>     Read the link carefully before replying :)
>>>
>>>     Thanks!
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>     Best Regards,
>>>     amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>     Areas of Involvement
>>>     <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
>>>     My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
>>>
>>>
>>> If this decision is true and they will go for it, then I see NO
>>> valid reason why not have Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 as an LTS release?!
> There will be no official Ubuntu GNOME LTS Release, we simply don't
> have the man power to commit to maintaining it. We will however make a
> best effort to provide support and updated packages where possible.

Rather sad to hear that, but I understand. However I'm going to try my
best to convince you otherwise for totally selfish reasons ;^)

We're committed to fixing bugs for 9 months even if we're not an LTS,
correct?

While nothing is etched in stone yet for 14.04 the first point release
is typically in August of the same year, so we'd see a bug-fix iso
(14.04.1) probably in August of 2014.

Beyond that things do indeed get just a bit dicey since Ubuntu started
the "hardware enablement stack" changes in Precise ........... I'm not
sure if a "flavor" can opt-out of those builds or not???

I personally still use 12.04.1 images for reinstalls on the 4 dozen
boxes I maintain because the whole process gets convoluted:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack

OTOH since Canonical dropped interim release support to 9 months I have
shifted more of my testing efforts toward upgrade and "upgrade (image)"
testing to try and ensure that upgrades can go fairly smooth, but most
typical end users want a stable release to last much longer than 9 months!

Could we do a three year LTS like Xubuntu? I think Lubuntu plans on
doing that in 14.04.

Could we be an LTS if we opted out of the hardware enablement stack
nonsense?

How many packages would we personally have to maintain that are not
maintained in Ubuntu or another flavor? Evolution does pop right into my
head ;^)

Regardless I respect your decision, I'm not a dev, just a lowly tester
with a selfish agenda.

Lance



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