A chat log isn't a meeting minutes.

Better example made with Gobby:
http://wiki.davical.org/index.php/Community_Support/Minutes_29June2015


El 28/07/15 a les 17:25, Bruce Pieterse ha escrit:
> 
> 
> On 28/07/2015 09:02, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> How will minutes be taken?
>>
>>
>> El 27/07/15 a les 18:37, Bruce Pieterse ha escrit:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/07/2015 03:59, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Ali/amjjawad <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello again,
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Team Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams, active members and/or
>>>>     whoever wish to participate/contribute, may I have your attention
>>>>     please?
>>>>
>>>>     It is planning time.My time is +10
>>>>
>>>>     I have just published:
>>>>     https://ubuntugnome.org/feedback-time-results/
>>>>
>>>>     I know this is late but better late than never.
>>>>
>>>>     Feedback and collecting data/opinions is over now. We need to move
>>>>     forward or else, we shall end up, just like the previous cycle,
>>>>     without a proper planning.
>>>>
>>>>     Yes, blame me for this if you wish but NO, I am not the only one who
>>>>     is part of this family. We have agreed to work as a TEAM and we have
>>>>     to honor this agreement and show our commitment to it. That said,
>>>>     putting the past a side, let's move on for a better future, shall we?
>>>>
>>>>     I'm sending this to the entire list because I hate to hide anything.
>>>>     In fact, we have no secrets to hide on the first place.
>>>>
>>>>     *Our performance, as a _team_, is REALLY BAD, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>>     *
>>>>     Blame me again for this but also keep in mind, there are other
>>>>     drivers or team leaders. I just survived a massive storm in my real
>>>>     life. I was this close to lose everything and everyone I have in my
>>>>     life. Thank God, I survived.
>>>>
>>>>     When I first joined this project back in 22-July-2013 (YES, 2
>>>>     years!), I had a clear vision that I didn't keep for myself but
>>>>     shared it with the entire community: to build a team/community that
>>>>     can lead itself without the need to a leader.
>>>>
>>>>     Sadly, we haven't yet reached that phase/level yet :(
>>>>
>>>>     The good news is: you still have me around whenever you need me.
>>>>
>>>>     Truth is: you need to understand that no one lives forever and this
>>>>     is a digital world, so changes might be much faster than real life.
>>>>
>>>>     No, I am not leaving. I have just turned 2 years with this family
>>>>     and there is NO WAY to leave unless all of you ask me to leave.
>>>>
>>>>     Yes, I have so much more to show.
>>>>
>>>>     However, this whole community needs to understand: if we shall
>>>>     _*not*_ work as one team, things might get worse, much worse than
>>>>     anyone can imagine. I have mentioned that, 2 years ago, to Lubuntu
>>>>     Team. They never listened to me. After I left them, they started to
>>>>     understand what I was talking about. They took some months until
>>>>     they started to take 'some' of my advices. I do hate to see Ubuntu
>>>>     GNOME to face the same thing.
>>>>
>>>>     Tomorrow is Friday, then Saturday and then Sunday. Is it possible to
>>>>     have a meeting during these days? if not, we need to get this done 
>>>> ASAP.
>>>>
>>>>     If Plan A (meeting) will fail, my Plan B is to go for 15.10 without
>>>>     a proper and a clear plan. Why? because we're a team and this is a
>>>>     community project, not a one-man-project.
>>>>
>>>>     My time is +10 GMT at the moment.
>>>>
>>>>     Should I set the date and time for the meeting and then send it?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, it took me 3 days to get back to this email. Busy real life as
>>>> always.
>>>>
>>>> Monday, 27-July-2015
>>>> I am available from:
>>>> 10:00AM +10 GMT timing - until - 2:00PM +10 GMT timing
>>>> and
>>>> From 4:00PM +10 GMT timing - until 11:00PM +10 GMT timing
>>>>
>>>> Who can make it for Monday? the meeting should be maximum 60 minutes,
>>>> regardless which platform we'll use.
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Should you insist not to have a meeting? then I can present a
>>>>     one-man-plan then you're free to vote good or bad but I DO HATE to
>>>>     do this. I am looking forward to work with a team ;)
>>>>
>>>>     Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>     -- 
>>>>     Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>
>>>>     Best Regards,
>>>>     Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>
>>>>     *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME
>>>>     <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry again for the short notice.
>>>>
>>>> @Narcis Garcia
>>>> Google Hangout: https://www.google.com/intl/en/+/learnmore/hangouts/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>
>>>> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME
>>>> <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ali,
>>>
>>> I think a meeting for Monday (today for me) is to short notice. Could we
>>> perhaps reschedule for next week Monday or the following Monday (3
>>> August)? I'm sure that's ample time for every one who wants to attend.
>>>
>>> Also can we:
>>>
>>> * Schedule the meeting time in UTC
>>> * Use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Meetings/Agenda to gauge
>>> interest and possible attendance
>>> * Start populating the agenda to discuss items
>>> * Use IRC for our first meeting and possibly discuss alternative
>>> platforms if any body wants to?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
> 
> Hi Narcis,
> 
> Normally with meetingology. You can see an example layout here:
> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-05-26-15.30.moin.txt
> 
> IRC logs will also be available.
> 
> Although I'm not sure if meetingology is available for the #ubuntu-gnome
> channel by default, perhaps some one can confirm if it is enabled?
> 

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