On 04/07/2011 02:48 PM, Stereotactic wrote:
Thats good. Still, it's main flagship was always Gnome and hence
there are
The most important upstream is still Debian, not GNOME (some-one
please correct me if wrong)
There was a talk about how little Canonical has supported Gnome (<1% of
the code base or whatever); it's all over the net so I wouldn't really
bother to prove my point.
Did you see it? I don't think you can because no such talk exists.
It was a blog post by Dave Neary.
If you understand the ecosystem so well, then you should be knowing
that it was a blog post and who posted it and when it was posted.
Instead you start with "There was a talk......"
The thread is *NOT* about rolling release. Please. It was, I repeat
again, the role of LUG's to spread the word for libre software. Despite
it's existence, I barely see any activity; heck, its not even mentioned
in the mainstream media. How many of us have made *ANY* effort to work
on those lines? Having a website or IRC presence alone does not count,
IMHO.
This discussion started from
"the best option is still to move on to the roots; i.e. Debian and I am
downloading the rolling release. "
Where did LUG come in picture? You were talking about Linux Mint and
Ubuntu's Update Manager.
:) First there is none; then there is "development version". Okay :)
It isn't calling a rolling release so it does not exist.
Using Development versions you can get the feel of rolling release
The idea is against proprietary standards. Against the concept of "paid
software" in the base operating system. I "*repeat again*" that no one
objects to Ubuntu One as a cloud service where users "*may*" pay for
whatever or if they are so concerned about syncing issues. Neither does
anyone object if there is anything for "paid support".
No one objects? Are you sure?
Paying for GPL software is also not wrong. People do pay. Humble Indie
bundle.
But it's against the proprietary standards and as I mentioned, stiffling
EULA's that are bound to come with it, one day or other.
Which "proprietary standards"? Example please.
In the long run, it would slowly compromise with the ideals of Debian
and
GNU.
How? All I find is talk and no evidence. You know when we talk about
Free we mean libre and not gratis.
Please head to http://gnu.org for more information
Again, it has no relevance to you assertions. Please try and understand
this. Canonical is profiteering from free code & turning on proprietary
standards without contribution back to community.
You still fail to explain how "it would slowly compromise with the
ideals of Debian and GNU"
The license is also "Terms and conditions" for using the software. I
hope you know this. Free software license are also as fancy to the
end-user as those 20 page long EULA.
Have you ever looked how long the full GPLv2 license is?
It's still "copyleft". I hate copyright in any manner whatsoever because
it's very nature is RESTRICTIVE. Sorry but the "length" of the licence
has nothing to do with it :) At least, it doesn't incapacitate the user!
GPL3/4/5 or whatever version may be 1000+ pages or whatever, still it
keeps the "freedom" intact.
You know without copyright, copyleft cannot exist?
Sheesh! Do you even know what is copyright. It is a right or
ownership. You probably hate the license under which those software
are distributed.
You know that all code under copyleft license is also copyrighted?
Ha! Glad you did :) Ignorance is bliss :) Atleast, I made your day :)
I just posted about your ignorance related to copyright and copyleft
just above. Probably you made your own day. :)
It has already moved towards Unity and slowly poisoning
it's relation with other companies in the ecosystem refusing to play
ball
with others.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.. http://goo.gl/NoyJS
:) http://imgur.com/kBhRq Hope this helps the attitude of some people :)
Atleast I don't go around writing conspiracy theories and blasting off
people (unless they spread FUD).
Perhaps it has *balls* enough but the future is going to stormy
for all of them.
Reading this same shit for past 5 years. Nothing happened
Reference to above quote; you are unlikely to see anything in the long
run/future :) So I'd let that pass again.
One sample: I have been hearing since day 1 that next release of Ubuntu
will see a mass exodus. It see it for every release. Nothing happens.
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