Hi Robert, On 29/06/06, Robert McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The first mention I saw on the list of the idea of deleting people was the sumary from the meeting, and then action was taken without waiting to see if there were any objections from people on the list. Not everybody can make it to meetings in IRC
That's a very good point. We should throughly discuss decisions on the mailing list before meetings, allowing people who can't make it to the meeting to put forward their view. If we're having fortnightly meetings then, at the very least, we should perhaps agree the agenda on the list the week before, so all the issues get some chance of discussion here. As I understood it, we agreed to prune the wiki member list, as it's superceded by Launchpad, and then contact each person removed from the wiki member list to let them know about the Launchpad team. That just seemed to make practical sense to me, as the wiki pages are/were out of date, plus Launchpad is the best way to handle members. The discussion in this thread seems to be about people being removed from the Launchpad team - I didn't think that was what we agreed in the meeting. If that's what happened, then let's look upon this as a learning experience, pointing to a need for improved communication.
I apologise for everything that I've sent to this list attacking people who are trying to get things done, but I think we have to be very careful that it is the right things are done, and that we dont exclude anyone from the descision making process because they were unable to get on IRC at a certain time.
Now that the marketing team has moved back to the mailing list and we're planning to have regular IRC meetings, I think it'll take a short while for things like this to settle down. To sort this particular issue out, I'd say we need to: * Discuss things on the mailing list to give everyone ample time to discuss things before anyone takes action. * Ensure we can still remain sufficiently nimble to deal with things quickly. * Avoid prescriptive language, which irritates people and is not appropriate for a community such as this. All common sense really, but the team has a new momentum and some new people, such as myself, so it's natural there'll be a short period of working things out. -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
