On 03/07/06, Jan Vancura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I will be doing these things
for as long as I'm available for doing them, with or without a
title/role/whatever

I think this illustrates the central point of the "anti-contact point"
position: those people who have the time and the commitment to fulfill
that role will make themselves known by their actions. So, if we can
get things done without bureaucratic demarcation of duties, then we
may as well.

The Doc Team reports that this approach works well for them. I'm
leaning towards us having no official contact point, for the
time-being. In the future, we may want to create a contact point for
specific scenarios - members of the press, for example - but at the
moment we're small and nimble, so why spoil that?

- Contacting Canonical (silbs), representing the team elsewhere

Does Jane (silbs) find it useful to have a single point of contact? If
Canonical find it easier to have a contact point, then I think we
should respect that. However, as Jane reads this list and is present
on #ubuntu-meeting, she's part of the process anyway.

- Scheduling, chairing and summarising meetings
- Finding people for special tasks (wiki management, IRC operators, LP
team admins, graphics designers etc.) and asking them to do them on
behalf of the team.
- Advertising the team elsewhere (forums, etc.), perhaps not needed anymore.

This is something we should do as a team. Now that we're having active
debate on the mailing list, we can work this sort of thing out amongst
ourselves.

Previously, when the team was languishing, it needed one or two people
to actively grab hold of people and encourage them to do things. You
did a fantastic job there and I can't see any reason why that would
stop, unless you wanted to. Now that the ML is getting a few messages
a day, from a number of different people, I think we can organise this
sort of thing on the list, though.

OTOH, I believe project leaders could form a sort of council to vote on
structural decisions, such as new projects, changes in the means of
communication.

Why not just debate it on the list and then make the final decision in
a live meeting? Provided there's plenty of warning, and perhaps we
offer a way to vote if people can't make the meeting, then the team as
a whole should decide this sort of thing.

We're only ever going to have a few projects. Really active people may
join us but there may not be a vacancy for a project leader - why
prevent them from making decisions? If the team grew so huge that such
a system were unwieldy, we could reconsider, but that seems unlikely.

--
Matthew Revell
www.understated.co.uk

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