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Matthew East wrote:
>
>
> * Jan Vancura:
>>> Vid Ayer wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/13/06, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> * Jan Vancura:
>>>>>>> All profit belongs to the Marketing Team.
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> Do you think it is really necessary for the marketing
>>>>>> team to have financial resources? I have to say that I
>>>>>> don't at the moment.
>>>>> I tend to agree. If I understand correctly,  revenue
>>>>> generation is not one of the goals for the Marketing team
>>>>> or is it ? Maybe I am missing the picture or too many ideas
>>>>> are popping up resulting in confusion for readers like me.
>>> Think of it this way: I privately invest money in printing and
> sending
>>> stickers (with risk to myself, too). I will inevitably have
>>> extra money or a deficit in the end. If there's a deficit - I
>>> foot it. If there's profit, I say it "belongs to the marketing
>>> team". I realise now that it's not entirely correct to say so,
>>> because the team cannot have property. From now on I will use
>>> "will be used for the
> benefit of
>>> the marketing team and spreadubuntu".
>>>
>>> What I intend are small bounties, possible investment in next
>>> batch, other material etc.. Bounties are a great way of
>>> motivating people. One bounty was given out in the MT, by Lloyd
>>> Hardy - for the best marketing idea (I don't remember what it
>>> was). The recipient decided he would donate the bounty to a
>>> charity :). But taht's not a
> necessary
>>> thing, of course.
>>>
>>> The whole initiative's purpose is NOT generating revenue, but
>>> it
> might
>>> be a side effect.
>
> I have to say that I still think that this is quite a dangerous
> idea. If you are undertaking this project on the basis that you
> might lose or gain money, I think you should do so on the basis
> that it is your commercial initiative. I don't think there is
> anywhere near enough coherence about this so far to form the basis
> of a marketing team "budget" for bounties or such.
>
> For future marketing team initiatives, it might be best to consider
>  whether to approach them on the basis of breaking even. For
> example, the documentation team publishes some of its books, and
> the purchaser pays exactly the price of publishing/postage. That
> way there is no problem with what to do with royalties, who holds
> them etc etc.
>
> Matt
I'm not implying a MT budget of any sort. I'm saying it should be done
privately, and one should try to generate as small a profit as
possible = try to break even. OTOH, one has to count that he/she won't
sell all or that some people will fail to pay. A slight difference
between income and expense is inevitable, and I'm saying it's the
person's own initiative and responsibility.
For me, personally, I'll use the money, if there's a profit, for the
benefit of the MT or it's projects, but that is my decision and I know
others have even done similar things for a profit.\
I'm also saying such activity benefits Ubuntu (and thus even
Canonical, holder of the trademarks that are used when dealing with
branded merchandise), even if said person makes a profit they keep for
them selves. The printer has a profit - they are paid for services
(and material, but that's a relatively small price), so the person who
goes through the trouble and risk of doing such DIY material, IMO, has
the right to claim any profit for himself (if he makes it clear that
it's a private endeavour).

Jenda
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