Offlist, since I won't add much to my previous post.

On 14/08/07, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Back on list.
> >
>
> Sorry, the marketing list confuses me! I keep forgetting you have to
> cc it back in when your reply to a post --- Doh.
>
> > I don't think so: rather, I think you've missed the point of
> > ubuntuvideo.com! Although it has a category for informational videos,
> > it is also intended to host marketing videos: note that it appears
> > under the MarketingTeam wiki page as a project.
> >
>
> I've not missed the point mate ;-) I just disagree with you!

That's fine: what you said in the passage from your email which I
quoted about informational videos led me to believe that you might
have.

> I've spoken to a few people on and off list about this, and using
> ubuntuvideo.com has never surfaced as an idea. In fact, this email was
> preceded by a conversation with Corey off list about domain
> registration and hosting for a new site.

That's also fine: Corey may also not have considered the idea of using
an existing initiative with similar goals for the project.

> > Ubuntuvideo.com is ideal for marketing, in my opinion. Creating
> > overlapping websites is exactly the best way to dilute marketing
> > initiatives, in my opinion. I've been around Ubuntu a fair time now
> > and I know well the tendency to create unnecessary websites for every
> > new idea. I'm just trying to guard against that: it may be that I have
> > missed a point somewhere and you or someone else on the team will show
> > me why I'm wrong; let's see.
>
> I think that the important aspects of the project are to create a medium that:
>
> a) allows people to submit videos

Ok, I think that's no problem: drupal (used on ubuntuvideo.com) does
this out of the box.

> b) allows visitors to vote on videos

That's definitely no problem: drupal has such a module.

> c) tracks the viral spread of videos

You mean like pingback? I don't see that drupal will have a problem
with that either.

> From a business point of view, I'd tend to look at the success of a
> medium before embarking on a project. Take a look at firefoxflicks.com
> - It's been pretty successful. I think that it stands as a good ideal
> to aspire to.

I agree.

> Lets step back, take a breather and think carefully before jumping
> onto the skirts of another website that mightn't meet our needs as
> well (even patched up) as creating one ourselves. I for one am not
> afraid of a little hard work - the easiest path doesn't always return
> the best results.

I would agree if the other website didn't have similar goals and I
didn't think that ubuntuvideo.com can't meet your needs: right now I
simply can't see why it can't.

I'll step back now because I'm not a regular contributor to the
marketing team and it's definitely right that the team decides the
best way forward; but I've seen so much effort spent on developing new
websites rather than producing marketing material that I just wanted
to inject some caution and present my point of view.

-- 
Matthew East
http://www.mdke.org
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