John Botscharow wrote:
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> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:03:25 +0100
> alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Alan,
> 
> You, I guess, are what we in the "colonies" like to call a lone wolf.
> You are, and this is not a criticism but merely a statement of fact,
> not a team player, and that is fine.

It is an incorrect statement. I can be a teamplayer - see how long I 
have been here. I can be a leader I can be a follower. I can also do 
whatever is necessary - without an elected leader. My point is that 
such a thing is not essential.

[...]

>> The meeting was arranged, and took place without an elected leader. 
>> People attended because they wanted to, not because someone told them 
>> to. Someone had to arrange it, that is not necessarily a job of a 
>> leader. It is the job of whoever is good at doing the organising and 
>> communicating about it.
>  
> Yes, no one was elected, but without Onno's leadership at the meeting,
> we would not have gotten anything done. I do agree we do not
> necessarily need elected leaders. But if the leadership is
> self-selected, as cream rising to the top - which I feel it did at the
> meeting - that leadership has to publicly accept that responsibility,
> which is what should have happened at the meeting, but did not. Had
> that happened - had we all agreed to serve as the core marketing group
> - - "until we get killed or the team finds someone better" to paraphrase
> one of my favorite movie lines, we'd not be having this discussion.

Do we need a leader to suggest this line of discussion is not very 
fruitful?

> Instead we'd be discussing concrete actionable projects that need to be
> done to help people like you and the LoCos do a better job of marketing
> Ubuntu0 

Such projects can be named without further discussion, surely?

Lobby educators, media, Congress, etc, etc
-- 
alan cocks
Kubuntu user#10391
Linux user #360648

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