On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Dustin Kirkland <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Robert Collins
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I completely agree. MOTU and core-dev membership is a combination of
> > * technical knowledge [for which two key points apply: arbitrary
> > have-done-X metrics don't assess any more reliably than peer assessment
> > of the work done, and the knowledge ages rapidly as technologies change.
> > Packaging of python today is not the same as it was 5 years ago].
> > * trust - which is entirely subjective
> > * fitting in the team - which can be assessed by who objects :)
>
> Okay, so I'll restate my point in another way ...
>
> If there is *no* objective component to MOTU/CoreDev application
> assessment, then I don't think it's fair to make arbitrary,
> *quantitative* criticisms on an application.
>
> Criticisms of the form:
>  * You haven't done enough merges
>  * You haven't touched enough Universe packages
>  * You haven't been a MOTU or Developer long enough
>  * You haven't ...  enough ...
> should be invalid.
>
> These things are actually measurable, and we could very well set the
> value of "enough".  If we are consciously choosing *not* to set these
> values, I think it's totally unfair to criticize someone for not
> achieving these arbitrary, dynamic, mystery thresholds.


I agree. In the same spirit of having a workbook, we could set guidelines
and not hard fast rules.  If we're going to have a workbook, we're setting
some numbers anyhow.


>
>
> :-Dustin
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