So if its a chrooted environment using a hal then why do we need fourteen thousand images? One should suffice and should even work on my EVO 4G?
--Just wanting to understand more if this is an OS or a Application looking like an OS. __________________________________________________________ https://www.vizify.com/lewis-donofrio - 734-743-1743 On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Robert Sink <[email protected]> wrote: > Google doesn't release the binary blobs. The manufacturer of respective > component releases (or in some cases doesn't release) those blobs. Google > will point you to such download place so you can accept the terms and > conditions for downloading such (at least for their development devices). > This is precisely why developers have argued the open sorcery of android... > and why many devices never made the cut upgrading from gb to ics. > If you've ever built lfs, you'd recognize the chroot as its own > environment. So, maybe you call it a rom in lieu of an os.. It is its own > thing nontheless. > > Lewis Donofrio <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> So long as its sold like that to the people, I just don't call it an >> operating system like traditional Ubuntu does. >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________________ >> https://www.vizify.com/lewis-donofrio - 734-743-1743 >> >> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 5:59 PM, David Hacker >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Is a change root environment that uses that communicates with the >>> android HAL (hardware abstraction layer) for certain proprietary functions >>> like audio and media decoding and radio interface >>> On Mar 23, 2013 4:50 PM, "Lewis Donofrio" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> So how is this application an os? >>>> On Mar 22, 2013 9:10 PM, "David Hacker" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's been stated many times that in order to support multiple devices >>>>> the Android HAL is necessary because open source graphics, ril, and audio >>>>> libraries are not available for many devices. Even for AOSP google does >>>>> not release source for those components just binary blobs. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Lewis Donofrio < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Real question, when will the need for the android crutch be resolved, >>>>>> aka native grub and all? >>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013 8:40 AM, "Sergio Schvezov" < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 02:41:51AM -0700, Christopher Noel Hesse >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > I guess not. Furthermore I assume we already have the latest >>>>>>> Android 4.2.1 >>>>>>> > codebase from CM-10.1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We don't do it automatically. If there is a good reason to though as >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> we upgraded from ICS to JB to get manta support, we will. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Actually, upgrading to 4.2.2 wouldn't be that clever, because we >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> > loose the ability to use usb debugging using adb before the first >>>>>>> actual >>>>>>> > boot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are other issues as well, APIs change and it needs to be worth >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> to move there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > The new security handling in 4.2.2 forces you to manually >>>>>>> whitelist your >>>>>>> > PC's RSA access key on your device to be able to use the android >>>>>>> debug >>>>>>> > bridge. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > It should be possible to disable that annoying security mechanism >>>>>>> in Ubuntu >>>>>>> > Touch if we want to upgrade to 4.2.2 though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes and it also requires you to setup for adb root, that is one of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> things we already disable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are blueprints or just talk still about: >>>>>>> - Figuring out what to do with adb long term in Ubuntu once we are >>>>>>> on S >>>>>>> - Changing Android to be in the container and have Ubuntu as the >>>>>>> main OS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ricardo S, do you have links to these if they already exist? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Sergio. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PS: I like adb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>
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