It's an OS. Am 24.03.2013 17:13 schrieb "Lewis Donofrio" <[email protected]>:
> So if its a chrooted environment using a hal then why do we need fourteen > thousand images? One should suffice and should even work on my EVO 4G? > > --Just wanting to understand more if this is an OS or a Application > looking like an OS. > __________________________________________________________ > https://www.vizify.com/lewis-donofrio - 734-743-1743 > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Robert Sink <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Google doesn't release the binary blobs. The manufacturer of respective >> component releases (or in some cases doesn't release) those blobs. Google >> will point you to such download place so you can accept the terms and >> conditions for downloading such (at least for their development devices). >> This is precisely why developers have argued the open sorcery of android... >> and why many devices never made the cut upgrading from gb to ics. >> If you've ever built lfs, you'd recognize the chroot as its own >> environment. So, maybe you call it a rom in lieu of an os.. It is its own >> thing nontheless. >> >> Lewis Donofrio <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> So long as its sold like that to the people, I just don't call it an >>> operating system like traditional Ubuntu does. >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________________________ >>> https://www.vizify.com/lewis-donofrio - 734-743-1743 >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 5:59 PM, David Hacker >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Is a change root environment that uses that communicates with the >>>> android HAL (hardware abstraction layer) for certain proprietary functions >>>> like audio and media decoding and radio interface >>>> On Mar 23, 2013 4:50 PM, "Lewis Donofrio" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So how is this application an os? >>>>> On Mar 22, 2013 9:10 PM, "David Hacker" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's been stated many times that in order to support multiple devices >>>>>> the Android HAL is necessary because open source graphics, ril, and audio >>>>>> libraries are not available for many devices. Even for AOSP google does >>>>>> not release source for those components just binary blobs. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Lewis Donofrio < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Real question, when will the need for the android crutch be >>>>>>> resolved, aka native grub and all? >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013 8:40 AM, "Sergio Schvezov" < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 02:41:51AM -0700, Christopher Noel Hesse >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > I guess not. Furthermore I assume we already have the latest >>>>>>>> Android 4.2.1 >>>>>>>> > codebase from CM-10.1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We don't do it automatically. If there is a good reason to though >>>>>>>> as when >>>>>>>> we upgraded from ICS to JB to get manta support, we will. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Actually, upgrading to 4.2.2 wouldn't be that clever, because we >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> > loose the ability to use usb debugging using adb before the first >>>>>>>> actual >>>>>>>> > boot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are other issues as well, APIs change and it needs to be >>>>>>>> worth it >>>>>>>> to move there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > The new security handling in 4.2.2 forces you to manually >>>>>>>> whitelist your >>>>>>>> > PC's RSA access key on your device to be able to use the android >>>>>>>> debug >>>>>>>> > bridge. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > It should be possible to disable that annoying security mechanism >>>>>>>> in Ubuntu >>>>>>>> > Touch if we want to upgrade to 4.2.2 though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes and it also requires you to setup for adb root, that is one of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> things we already disable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are blueprints or just talk still about: >>>>>>>> - Figuring out what to do with adb long term in Ubuntu once we are >>>>>>>> on S >>>>>>>> - Changing Android to be in the container and have Ubuntu as the >>>>>>>> main OS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo S, do you have links to these if they already exist? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Sergio. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS: I like adb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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