On 04/22/2016 11:58 AM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote:
Hey Tony!
We were considering that as well, but there are a few reasons we do not
want to do that. If we wanted to move to 16.10 instead of 16.04 we would
need to wait at least 6 more months for the switch to happen since we
*must* base on a released version. It's not acceptable to do it before
the series is fully released - we did that in the 14.09 times and it was
one of the worst ideas and experiences we had.
Waiting 6+ months to do a baseline switch is too long, we already
stretch vivid's possibilities - being that the main series is already EOL.
Sure, as long as we're aware that we'll probably end up with more
packages in the overlay re-basing on xenial ( vs. x+1 ) as the barrier
to SRU'ing packages for 16.04 is a bit higher than landing the same
changes in a development release.
That said, I understand the trade-off re: having to wait yet another six
months, and the risks of using a "pre-release" version.
Regards,
/tony
Cheers,
W dniu 22.04.2016 o 17:47, Tony Espy pisze:
On 04/22/2016 11:01 AM, Pat McGowan wrote:
meant to send to the list
Pat --
Can you comment on whether consideration of moving to 16.10 is a
possibility vs. 16.04 (xenial)?
Regards,
/tony
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From: *Pat McGowan* <[email protected]
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Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Xenial for Ubuntu Phone?
To: Filip Dorosz <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
No, the move to Xenial will not include a transition to Snappy, this is
a longer term work effort which we are also actively planning. We are
working with the snappy team on issues unique to ubuntu-personal (which
will be the basis for the phone) which are a superset of the problem
space compared to ubuntu-core.
As Lukasz mentioned going to Xenial requires us to have a well thought
through migration path for apps/scopes and we will communicate much more
on this and work with developers as the plans get finalized.
Cheers
Pat
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Filip Dorosz
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Hi Łukasz.
When the Phone move to Xenial will it also be Snappy based finally?
Regards,
Filip Dorosz
W dniu 22.04.2016 o 11:41, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak pisze:
Hello Bob!
W dniu 22.04.2016 o 01:23, Bob Summerwill pisze:
So Xenial has been released :-)
My apologies if this has already been addressed, but what is
the planned
schedule for Xenial arriving for Ubuntu Phone devices?
I have been using a Meizu MX4 as my primary phone for the
last few months,
and I just took delivery of a BQ Aquarius M10 tablet and am
setting it up
right now. Woohoo!
Both my devices are currently on Vivid 15.04 (OTA 10.1).
What is the Xenial transition plan for these official
devices? Best
wishes!
As already mentioned in a few landing e-mails, the baseline
switch from
vivid to xenial is our near-term plan for stable channels. But
please
remember that it's not an easy task. When we were switching our
baseline
from 14.09 (ubuntu-rtm) to 15.04 long time ago it took us a few
months
to stabilize the phone again. With xenial introducing the g++
ABI break
(and a few other nuances), the whole process could take even
longer
since there's more things we need to consider during the switch.
The most difficult part is that we can't only concentrate on one
front,
meaning: we can't just drop everything and just work on getting
xenial
(devel-proposed) into working shape as our current focus needs
to be on
the stable devices (vivid-overlay). That being said, we will be
preparing something similar to a 'task force' that will be
taking care
of moving the xenial initiative forward. It's really hard to
give a firm
schedule here - with this we still need to wait a bit.
All this means the next few OTAs will still be vivid-based
with our
development focus on vivid, but then we intend to switch to
xenial for
future devices.
I am on the waiting list for Meizu MX5 PRO as well, as my
next phone.
Cheers,
Bob Summerwill
Cheers,
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